2020 US Presidential Race




True. Therefore Kamala vs Pence will be a crucial clash.


Rest of family tested negative


Busted. Apparently he’s being treated with antibodies. Too late to claim he just quaffed a cup of bleach. :icon_biggrin:


He looks alright here…



So far. Those around trump should have been doing everything they could to protect the pres regardless of what donald thought of masks. All of trump’s entourage were performing for the donald debate car crash. The rules in the hall were everyone wear masks. The only one who anyone was surprised was not wearing a mask was Melania. Disgraceful behavior all round.


Masks are not effective and arguably make things worse

Wearing a mask is a statement

One cannot signal one’s virtue while washing one’s hands

But by wearing a mask one loudly proclaims goodness and virtue


The rules in the hall were to were mask. The only ones virtue-signalling were the trumps and the other idiots around them. There is plenty of evidence of the benefit of masks, not perfect but certainly a benefit


“As SARS-CoV-2 continues its global spread, it’s possible that one of the pillars of Covid-19 pandemic control — universal facial masking — might help reduce the severity of disease and ensure that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic. If this hypothesis is borne out, universal masking could become a form of “variolation” that would generate immunity and thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere, as we await a vaccine.”


Thats not Trump its a body double.


Melania certainly wore a mask into the debate, it was shown on TV. She may have removed it one seated, since the audience members were ‘socially distanced’ and no one would have a problem with that. Disgraceful behaviour? No


Doubt it.

Im expecting Trump to be fine and to now win the election with the narrative being him having faced down the virus etc.

The lack of humanity in the reaction of many of those on the opposite side is telling. The same people who scream incessantly about tolerance, empathy, diversity etc now wishing an elderly man to die. This is the same cohort who cheerled abortion in Ireland and will soon employ similar tactics to try and introduce euthanasia. So many of them are sick individuals.

Credit to Biden for a measured response but theres too many nutters within the progressive camp. It has taken a bit of a nutter in the form of Trump to stand up to them.

Hopefully he recovers fully and wins. Lets see


Remember this?

Trumpers can dish it out but now demand empathy when their guy fall ill from a disease he has constantly downplayed.


demand empathy

Do you realise how foolish that sounds?


Let’s see, might the formula reveal anything…

August 6th

Pre-signalled = pre-planned?

Meanwhile esteemed director Michael Moore thinks it’s all a play and posted the following on his Facebook page:

So Now Trump Has Earned Your Trust? A Note of Covid Caution from Michael Moore…

There is one absolute truth about Trump: He is a consistent, absolute, unrelenting, fearless, and professional liar. A serial liar. A factually proven liar. How many lies now has the Washington Post proven in these four years? 25,000? A lie at least twice during every waking hour? Think of all the bad people you’ve known in your life. Even the worst ones you couldn’t say that about.

So why on earth would we believe him today? Has he earned your trust now? No. Yet, we’re decent enough to not want him to be sick, to wish him well, and maybe just this once give him the benefit of the doubt because why would he lie about this?

That’s not the question. The question we — and yes, I mean you, too, the media — the only question we really need to be asking is this: Why would Trump all of a sudden just start telling the truth?

All of you, my friends, have been saying for four years, “Trump’s a liar! Trump is a liar!” Why would you believe him now? He very well may have COVID-19. In fact, let’s assume he does. Of course he has it! Does that make him not Trump? I’m certain Mussolini came down with the flu one time. Pinochet and Franco would catch a cold every now and then. Margaret Thatcher must have had a migraine or two. None of them suddenly became nice or did good things - or started telling the truth - because they got sick. Jesse Helms with a runny nose was still Jesse Helms.

But Trump has a history of lying about his health. His longtime New York doctor, Dr. Bornstein, admitted a few years ago that Trump dictated his perfect “doctor’s letter” during the 2016 campaign. Then there was the White House doctor who said Trump could live “200 years!” What about his lying about that emergency trip to Walter Reed “to complete his physical?” Trump also has a history of lying about his opponents’ health (like when Hillary fell ill at the 9/11 remembrance ceremony, or what he’s now been saying about Biden’s health).

So we must be skeptical. We must always remain skeptical when it comes to Trump. He may have it. But it’s also possible he’s lying. That’s just a fact.

But why would he lie about this? What would he have to gain? I mean, it looks bad that he’s called it a hoax for seven months, and he totally mismanaged the government response — and now he has it? Doesn’t it look terrible that he’s spent months downplaying wearing masks, dismissing social distancing, holding large rallies filled with elderly, at-risk supporters and even killing his own supporters like Herman Cain? And doesn’t this go against his brand of always projecting (and exaggerating) his own strength, his health, his genetics, his virility? Yes. This is all true. He would not want to admit he‘s come down with a hoax.

But — he’s losing the election. And he knows it. It’s not 2016. He was hated in 2016, but he’s hated even more now. Millions of Americans are ON FIRE and on the verge of serving him up a major league ass-whooping and a record landslide defeat.

So he needs - badly - to totally change the conversation about this campaign.

And he just has.

Democrats, liberals, the media and others have always been wrong to simply treat him as a buffoon and a dummy and a jackass. Yes, he is all those things. But he’s also canny. He’s clever. He outfoxed Comey. He outfoxed Mueller. He outfoxed 20 Republicans in the GOP primary and then did the same to the Democrats, winning the White House despite receiving fewer votes than his opponent. He’s an evil genius and I raise the possibility of him lying about having COVID-19 to prepare us and counteract his game. He knows being sick tends to gain one sympathy. He’s not above weaponizing this.

He’s been lying about how soon a vaccine will be ready. What better way to hammer home that lie then by directing a saga in the final weeks before the election that culminates in the release of this “vaccine.”

The NY Times tax story was horrible for him. As was The Atlantic story about him calling American troops losers and suckers. There are a dozen more of these stories coming in October. Just last night, The New Yorker detailed how his campaign finance director (and Don Jr’s girlfriend) was fired from Fox News for…well…behaving like a typical Fox News host by sexually harassing her assistant and forcing Fox to pay a $4 million settlement to that assistant due to her behavior. And also, last night, there was CNN playing an audio recording of Melania talking shit about children separated from their parents at the border — AND talking shit about Christmas. Christmas!

These stories are about to be a daily occurrence. However, they may get less airtime and be less damaging since Trump and FLOTUS are now “sick” and supposed to be in our thoughts and prayers.

But most dangerously, HE MAY USE THIS TO PUSH FOR DELAYING/POSTPONING THE ELECTION. The constitution does not allow for this, but he doesn’t give a f*ck about the constitution. He and his thug Attorney General Barr have no shame and will stop at nothing to stay in power. He may even use this as an excuse for losing.

Then there’s this:

He may use his Covid as a pretext to drop out of the race and move Pence to the top of the ticket. Pence would temporarily become President, and then Pence could pre-emptively pardon Trump for all of his crimes.

Again, though, he may have COVID. He probably does. But never, ever, ever take him at his word and never, ever, ever underestimate his survival skills or the depths of his deception or his evil.

What can YOU do today? Make your plan to vote and stick to it. Question everything. And if you and I are finally convinced he has it, do NOT sit silent as he schemes how to use this illness for his benefit.

Finally, on a personal note: Stay alive Mr. President. Your exit from public life must happen in the right and decent way. You have many years to live. You have a child to raise. Grandchildren who need you. A base that loves you. And the families of nearly the quarter-million dead who might be alive today had you done your job, had you cared, had you not played politics with people’s lives. Over 200,000 lost souls — and YOU KNEW! You told Woodward in February it was a plague. 200,000 dead because of decisions you made, because you denigrated science and ignored the doctors.

I’m certain you’re listening to them now.

Covid must not remove you. That’s our job. With a pen and a ballot.

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You must expect, therefore, Biden to have contracted the virus and that he too will test positive?

Tell me, why have positive tests risen in countries with mandatory mask-wearing rules (Spain), and fallen in Sweden which has no mask-wearing policy?


My guess is that in Sweden the virus has probably run more of its course than in countries where there has been a policy to prevent the transmission that is clearly failing. Sweden took a bigger hit earlier and most likely has the “heard immunity” that is supposed to protect the general population by having a large population of people who can’t transmit the virus to others as they are already immune to it.

Having said that, Sweden is still recording 3-600 cases a day but only one or two deaths a day.
Almost certainly down to the extensive testing regime in place.


Sept 18th Tweet

Replying to @joshtpm

Trump’s October surprise will be the announcement of “his infection.” Fake, but quite dramatic. This twist will blow Biden off the screens, the “Trump COVID watch” dominating every minute of every day. Then, 14 days later, Trump will emerge, 100% cured by hydroxychloroquine.

8:51 AM · Sep 18, 2020

Src: https://twitter.com/JohnCammo/status/1306863435125202946


Whoever is tweeting from Trump’s account is doing a poor job in imitating him. WAY TOO MANY shouting in Caps Lock.
I know their aim is to adopt the persona of an ignorant oaf, but surely they could do better?



I expect many of trumps entourage and those on marine one to test positive.

Swedens rates are increasing. My guess is Swedes tend to follow guidelines more than many other countries adhere to guidelines dressed up as rules. From what I have seen they are nowhere near herd immunity.