61 Eglinton Road, Donnybrook

looks very nice inside and out - lot of cash though and usually AMV is below what vendor will sell for

Does the IT not have the result ?

I think some of those pictures are a few years old and it has been a rented out in the mean time.

myhome.ie/pricechanges/dublin

looks like no interest and they are confused now as to how to price !

61 Eglinton Road, Donnybrook, Dublin 4,
€3,800,000 - 5 Bed Period House 363 m² / 3907 ft² For Sale

myhome.ie/residential/brochure/61-eglinton-road-donnybrook-dublin-4/211920

+1

No bids even close to AMV

  1. Recent Irish Times article on the Property.
    irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/outstanding-home-on-eglinton-road-to-auction-for-3-4m-1.2168522

  2. Failed to sell at auction in March 2004 with 2.7m AMV (there were no bids at AMV), but Sherry put it back on at 3m
    irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/dartmouth-road-house-sells-for-over-3-9m-1.1137934

  3. House was in renovated condition in March 2004 (most of the structural work in evidence today was done) and Sherry subsequently sold it for at price not exceeding the AMV of 2.7m

  4. Was renovated again post purchase in 2004 to its current condition. Pretty sure that no major structural work or extension was done in this renovation but a completely new interiors / kitchen and some interior styling (wooden beams) added.

  5. Was put up for sale in 2010 for 3.85m (a completely mad price at the time) and covered in another PIN thread.
    thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=29791

There are few +2m houses D4 that are selling today for even close to their mid-2004 prices ? I think that Eglinton Road is a good road, but nothing like an Ailesbury Road, Herbert Park, Park Avenue or other core prestige D4 locations. That is where I think the EA (and owners) have mispriced this house.

72 Eglinton Road sold for 2.6m at end 2014, but it was a fully detached non-period two story (perfect for extending), and had one of the best back gardens in Eglinton Road - very long and fully south facing. 85 Eglinton Road also sold for 2.6m in 2014 but had almost half an acre of land with a very imposing large detached period house in its centre. I don’t think 61 Eglinton Road is in the league of these two houses. It’s renovation gives it a short at achieving their pricing, but not the current price being quoted.

Given how poor todays auction was, at the very most they should have stuck with the 3.4m price, on the basis of and un-renovated value of c. 2.9m, to see if they could pull off getting a c. mid-2004 pricing for a +2m D4 house. If they couldn’t find an Embassy or Corporate type buyer, then they should be more willing to accept c. 3m (which I think is still a decent deal).

observer thanks - interesting

any idea what the highest bid was ?

many bidders ?

it will be sitting along time at 3,8m …

Just realised that this thread is continued on in 2015 on the following thread:

61 Eglinton Road, Donnybrook, Dublin 4
thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=64378&p=826172&hilit=+61+eglinton#p826172

Can these threads be merged ?

Done!

61 Eglinton Road continues to hold out for Mark Keenan’s “Moneybags foreign buyer” (i.e. an idiot)

Another data point on the extreme over-pricing of 61 Eglinton Road comes from the price drop of 7 Temple Gardens to 3.95m
thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=64383&p=830569

Sunningwell, 7 Temple Gardens, Rathmines, D6 is now asking almost the same price are 61 Eglinton Road - you decide:

(+ in favour of 61 Eglinton)

  1. Sunningwell is 3,700 sq ft. - 61 Eglinton is 3,900 sq ft.
  2. Sunningwell is decorated from the 1990s (tired) - 61 Eglinton is decorated from c. 2006 (look good).

(+ in favour of Sunningwell)

  1. Temple Gardens is one of the top 4 roads in Dublin - Eglinton Road is not even in the top 20.
  2. Temple Gardens is quiet, little traffic - Eglinton Road is a major traffic junction and frequently blocked up.
  3. Sunningwell is period detached - 61 Eglinton is a period semi-d.
  4. Sunningwell has a decent sized north-facing garden - 61 Eglinton has a small north-facing garden.

I thought eglinton was a top address ?

This was the Indo top 10 article - would agree with much but not all of it. The article was done to prep the market for several Howth houses that were being readied for sale (and two other Dalkey houses but they never came to market)

independent.ie/life/home-garden/homes/paved-with-property-gold-the-top-10-most-exclusive-streets-in-ireland-30215475.html

There was another Sunday Paper article on the top 20 from 2006 but I can’t find it. It included the top 10 above plus Vico Road, Killiney Hill Road, Temple Villas, Cowpower Road, Westminister Road (I think), Herbert Park, Raglan Road, Elgin Road some road from Malahide and another from Dalkey / Killiney. It did not have Eglington Road I’m afraid ?

super thanks - I know some heavy hitters like Peter Sutherland live there though

That Indo article was written probably by a time-pressed reporter in maybe five or ten minutes, with an equal time commitment to background research. These top-ten lists are generally just filler that reporters spew out when they need some column inches fast. Do not put too much trust in it. Two drunks in a pub could do as well or better. Not sure that this is relevant to the discussion, but anyway. You are right about Eglington – not in top ten or even, I guess, top 20.

+1 about the quality of that article (and frankly most articles that appear in that paper), it should be totally disregarded as it offers little in the way of truth.
The fact is that there is no absolute ‘Top 10’ or ‘Top 20’ as roads in Dublin have such varying quality houses on good roads.

Firstly, the minute I read that there are ‘23 houses’ on Shrewsbury Road I can already tell the entire article isn’t worth reading. There are 31, but naturally the Indo doesn’t get too caught up in facts. Shrewsbury Road is definitely the top road and is unlikely to change, bar if both Walford and Chester Beatty site are badly developed - the latter already has permission to be overdeveloped, hopefully won’t come to fruition.

After that, Ailesbury Road has a good number of exceptionally desirable houses (mainly the detached ones) with the rest mostly very good, and some quite ordinary on the Western half (the modern ones) - it is also a relatively busy road, which is a deciding factor.

If you were to break streets up, the eastern side of Temple Road is more valuable than Ailesbury Road. If you are to take a road as a whole, Temple Road is home to primarily ordinary houses and a large unimportant townhouse development - the average value of houses on the street would be put it behind the likes of Avoca Avenue in Blackrock. The problem with all these lists is that they are near impossible to make without being very specific about which parts of the roads you’re referring to. They also give Park Avenue as No. 5, saying 30 houses have traded hands, when in fact there aren’t even 30 top class houses on Park Avenue, with the majority being relatively ordinary.

Speaking of, Cross Avenue is very unlikely to be a long-term feature of any ‘most exclusive’ list. Once Chesterfield is developed as a high-density development, finally destroying the last estate on the street, there will still be a few nice houses, but generally speaking it is constantly losing its magic.

For Dalkey, they comically list Coliemore Road as No. 7 with no mention of the actual best road, i.e. Vico Road. Coliemore Road, again, is a total mish-mash of styles and houses of varying desirabilities - some absolutely rubbish, some very good - certainly no comparison to Vico Road, though.

Kerrymount Avenue definitely deserves its spot.

On the Northside, Cheancor Road well deserves its spot. Houses on Thormanby Road (stretch from Carrickbrack Road to Bailey Green Road) would make it into the Top 20. In Malahide, Church Road (namely Windsor and Carlisle Terrace, which face one another, and a few other houses further up The Hill - ‘Tir na Nog’, ‘Thormanby’, ‘Lerrig Lodge’, ‘Ormiston’(as a site), ‘Rahona’ & ‘Teakwood’) might make it also.

As for Eglinton Road, it certainly isn’t Top 10 but it is one of the best roads in Dublin. Great location, albeit it a very busy road, with a high quality of housing stock. With the exception of the Eastern end with the horrific office development (which will undoubtedly be pulled down in the future), most of the bad modern developments on the road are hidden or down side roads. The newest development, Glaunsharoon, is very high quality and attracted plenty of very wealthy buyers. In terms of houses, there are some relatively big names living on the street, and recently the new owners of Loyola House have created what is undoubtedly one of Dublin’s finest residences after an extraordinary seven-figure renovation.

Another point is that the list is in some ways fluid, in that Temple Gardens was not always considered to be so highly ranked - the likes of Raglan & Wellington Roads would likely have outranked it years ago, while now the strong desire for gardens and the rising popularity of D6 - particularly the Luas areas - has made it possible for it to be considered so desirable. Love the street myself, but it wasn’t always ranked so highly. You’ll find, though, that these type of silly lists can vary year on year depending on what agents are trying to shift, or are hoping to shift in the near future.

Speaking of Eglinton, does anyone know how this grotesquely ugly entrance was allowed to be constructed from a house on Eglinton onto Donnybrook Road?

Donnybrook

On second thought, I concede that SoCoDu is right about Eglington Road – it has a lot of traffic but the housing stock is quite excellent, especially with the big refurbishments recently near the Sandford Road end. But Eglington does have a heavy flow of noisy traffic, which detracts a bit despite the high quality of the houses.

Slow moving traffic is rarely noisy :slight_smile:

I’m currently driving on Eglinton Road and beeped my horn outside 61 just to prove you wrong.
:smiley:

The PIN is truely omnipotent :smiley:

Sorry - was trying to attach a google streetview image and it didn’t work.

Tis the house right on the corner, with a PVC/glass porch on the ground level, and a huge window on the first floor apparently inserted in the gable end of a house (if anyone knows it).