Asking Prices - Worrying developments


#1033

Sure - and in our new environment I trust a bank as being somewhat balanced - of course only Analysts on AIB / banking will pick it up - I doubt the vested interests

From the CEO

Our very competitive mortgage offers, coupled with the increased
activity in the mortgage market, have resulted in AIB providing
more mortgages to customers’ year on year. Our market share of
mortgage drawdowns in the Republic of Ireland grew by 6% in
the first quarter of the year to 39%. Customer drawdowns were
€ 0.8 billion, which was 61% higher than this time last year.
Notwithstanding the significant increase in activity, we believe
that the macro-prudential measures introduced by the Central
Bank of Ireland (CBI) are likely to have a material dampening
effect on house prices and mortgage lending in 2015.

investorrelations.aib.ie/content … t-2015.pdf


#1034

Agree with this point. In the example I gave I think the vendor’s expectations will prevent a deal being done (with me at least).

Happy hunting as well (once you’re not looking at the same places as me :slight_smile:)


#1035

I believe if Seabury dropped to the circa €350K levels there would be a lot more interest and in turn drive prices back up hence creating a false floor of around €400K. It needs a couple of sales closer to 350 than 400 and a general negative media message and public sentiment to drive prices down.

The ‘marginal areas’ are Lissadel Wood & Waterside, both new modern estates with no front gardens (some with no back gardens) and a style that isn’t to everyone’s taste. The only other 3 bed close by in is Killeen which is still asking €450K (dropped from €465K).


#1036

Here’s a surprising fall in an estate near where I currently live

23 Kimmage Grove
myhome.ie/residential/brochu … 6w/2318747
Down 8% or 25k to 300k.

The last 2 houses that sold in this estate
#6 for 340k in July
#25 for 346k in March
propertypriceregister.ie/we … ge%20grove

Now, I would have thought these houses would stay around the 350k mark or even rise slightly as I expected them to appeal to FTB’s and even some trader-uppers (from apt’s perhaps) who were stung by the new CB rules.
But no, they are showing a fall of 12% or so from the March sale. And people on here expected it would be houses in the 400k to 600k mark that would really be impacted by the CB rules

Could this be a sign of the market as it stands and of things to come!


#1037

sherryfitz.ie/residential/for-sale/44973

propertypriceregisterireland.com … nd-166554/

Didn’t think this would go for an much as it did, only 3% under asking!


#1038

Going to be another interesting one to watch as a benchmark setter in Clontarf semi-D land.

myhome.ie/residential/brochu … -3/3299320

€482/sq ft which is an 8.5% discount to what the neighboring 117 went for in May. Worth noting that 117 was in better spec and had been extended (hence the €790k sale price and 527/sq ft).


#1039

sherryfitz.ie/residential/for-sale/42875

propertypriceregister.ie/We … enDocument

Full asking. Nicely done kitchen but leaves a small back garden.

The bottom of the market

myhome.ie/priceregister/11-l … lin-213752

I think we viewed one in the grove in low 300’s late 2012/early 2013


#1040

Surprised this got full asking in the current climate unless was sales agreed, contracts signed a few months ago and just took a while to close.

Garden is small however big enough for a BBQ, sitting out etc and green out front for kids to play.


#1041

I wonder how long it takes for macro factors like the current Chinese malaise to manifest in sellers expectations in Ireland. A year probably


#1042

On further examination, someone made a nice profit.

collapso.net/Property-Price- … p?id=50682

V.true on garden, think it’s more the bushes/shading that’s tainting my view but they could possibly be removed.


#1043

Number 11 sold for €250K!! Another nice profit to be made there as well.


#1044

Donegal seems to have peaked over night.
myhome.ie/recent/donegal
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#1045

Fantastic.
myhome.ie/residential/brochu … al/3300542
39.87 acres of Muff for €20 million. :laughing:


#1046

Is it just me or has the recent-ish fall in prices in the SCD area come to an end?

Yeah, some asking prices still falling but the actual selling prices being achieved are ‘sticky’ and not going to far off those from 2014.
Went to a viewing today and as it was 5th viewing in as many weeks, I expected the frothy price to be coming down. But was told by EA it’s got a bid of 3% under asking which really surprised me.

I dunno, I really don’t


#1047

My PPR index is showing a big bounce in average prices for the last few months but it does look like transactions are slowing up a bit.


#1048

Are transactions really slowing up?

Or do you mean the 12 month rate of growth is slowing? i.e. transaction volumes continue to grow but at a slower pace than earlier in the year.

Ps July looks like being another record beating month :slight_smile:


#1049

I’d agree with this - see more detailed figures here - viewtopic.php?f=10&t=61818&hilit=is+supply+coming+on&start=1123

I have tried for some time to guesstimate the ‘normal’ number of sales to be expected in Dublin in a year - I come up with figures between 20 and 26000 per year (based on the percentage of houses expected to turn over each year in other jurisdictions) which suggests that Dublin has some way to go as there were 14000 sales last year. Conservatively I would think that sales will increase by at least 30% this year suggesting a figure around 18000 which gets us near the lower end of my guesstimate.

It seems that supply isn’t clearing at the moment (perhaps because its crap, or overpriced - perhaps there is no demand - it’s probably impossible to tell) - normally there would be a surge in available properties in September and I will be surprised if this doesn’t happen. One interesting tell tale sign is that I haven’t received anything from EAs in the last few months saying that they are looking for properties like mine - that would normally happen every couple of months and especially just before a major selling season.


#1050

If the stats were going the other way, you’d be very quick to jump down somebody’s throat for the moronity of comparing MOM rather than YOY.


#1051

myhome.ie/residential/brochu … in/3308792

Some asking! nice house, done well, just not worth over €600k!


#1052

Peak silliness, with no credit to fuel this delusion some people are in for a rude awakening pretty soon. BD