Back in the nest: an agonising tale that's completely lackin

maybe she was soakin up info like a sponge from the news, media, estate agents, banks and politicians? Remember what it was like during the “good” times? those guys had free reign

She’s working with the HSE, FB2, so that may have an impact on her income that being in a private practice she might not feel. If she really had brains, she would have chosen hair-dressing, which according to the guy who does my few locks, is virtually recession proof.

So true. I can remember my sister when she was 16 leaving school to go and do hair dressing.

I asked her was it not wise to finish? You see by the time she was qualified I told her that the economy would be in ruins.

Well she qualified there two weeks ago (it 4 years to train) and has already had one new job offer and also managed to negotiate her current pay and days up her her existing place of employment. I was right about one thing wrong to worry about the other.

The moral of the story is stick to what you know and hairdressing is not one of my specialties (if you saw me flowing locks you’d understand).

Its a haircuts economy in every sense of the word.

Wait till the grange becomes social housing and she’ll really be pissed.

Honestly though, WTF is agonising about her story?

+1. Its hardly Haiti FFS.

‘The spirit of gracious living’

That was the guff plastered all over the ‘breakfast at tiffany’s’ style advertising hoardings outside the Grange, how I envy those gracious living professionals working 2 jobs to scrape together the repayments on a 1 bed apartment

There are families living on half that girl’s salary, scraping by, paying for kids, doing without

I don’t know whether that article is designed to make us feel sorry for the cubs or to enrage us

:laughing: you may be onto something.

I see that the article was written by Alison O’Riordan.

Here she is in the first person singular, seemingly in the same edition of the *same *paper…

‘‘Canned chatter’’, as Aleister Crowley called newspaper journalism.

Exactly, I’m currently in Latin America, and paid a dentist, 10 dollars for a filling last week.Cheaper than a short, back and sides back home.
Guy smiled when I entered, and shook my hand when I left.
Considering the wages a dentist gets back home, it’s obscene they are complaining in the national media.

Do dentists call them selves “Dr. SoAndSo” rather than “Mr.” there too? I always find that annoying and pretentious.


Thanks for that H&S. Mentioned earlier in the thread.



It seems to be more a Dublin thing, this all-or-nothing approach to accommodation i.e. live with your parents or buy. I know so many Dubliners who lived with their parents well into their late 20s then over-leveraged themselves to get on the ‘ladder’ compared to us provincials who haven’t much choice. It’s partly a sign of how stigmatised renting has been and partly, I suspect, not wanting to countenance any drop in living standards that comes from having to pay for your own NTL package and cupboard staples. A friend of mine finally moved out of the parental nest at 29 and was outraged at how much stuff you had to buy – “I mean, having to buy SALT and stuff!”, he fumed…

Life’s a beach aint it :laughing:

I’ve mentioned on here before that some kind of renter’s association might be a good idea at this stage of the game.

The work of this association would be along the lines of:

a. Call for and lobby for higher standards in shell and fittings and furniture - assessment of same should be incorporated in some kind of a grading system or standards (inferior shell, furnishings and fittings shoulds imply large rental discounts etc.).
b. Call for and lobby for more places to be available unfurnished.
c. Call for and lobby for facilitation of longer term renting arrangements
d. Public naming and shaming of landlords who do not live up to their duty both as legislated and/or in spirit.
e. Provide educational resources for renters - both in terms of their duties and responsibilities towards landlords (since some renters do actually deserve to be treated the way they are by some landlords) and in what they should expect in return.
f. Monitor the rental market for price fixing, collusion, cartels, tacit social agreements among the landlord class etc.

Once NAMA comes in, they will certainly have a focus on the rental market - if they can extract higher rents, then this in turn supports higher yields and thus higher house prices. In addition, I would say that the rental market in Ireland at present is quite a soft target in this regard.

I think renters need to start looking more proactively towards the betterment of their interests. The ‘stigmatisation’ that paracetamol talks about needs to be swung around the other way. Otherwise, we may be in for a (nother) shafting.

EDIT - g. lobby against apartments and houses being held back from the rental market etc.

I’d say it’s down to the generally low quality of rental accommodation in Dublin coupled with its high price. It’s very difficult to find value unless you want to live with other people even now.

How can this lady on 75k not afford her stupid grange shoebox. “It has now become too much of a struggle and a stress to pay for”.

“It was only a one bedroom apartment she could afford” - even for that money she could have bought a house if she had not been seduced by the spirit of gracious living.

It looks like is an exercise by the newspapers in helping to removing all guilt from their conscience for helping to chain people up for 30-40 years. They are going “look, these smart people didnt see it coming, neither did we, or anyone”. It reminds me of the FF style of “it was nobodys fault” / “it was everyones fault” / “it was lehmans” / “it was international factors” / “can i have a 10k lottery win please and artist exemption for my autobiography”

Ehh no. If you want a good sex life without the hassle of paying a mortgage, you rent and the handy thing is that you only need one bedroom (i.e. houseshare), which is a heck of a lot cheaper than paying a mortgage on a whole house/apartment.

Firstly, let me just say that I really hate it when some folk on here generalise about how all twenty-something-year-old’s have some sort of Celtic Tiger entitlement complex.

Secondly, I know the dentist 'wan and that article and she personification of the Celtic Tiger entitlement complex. Some people don’t seem to realise that life is difficult, and that you don’t always get everything you want. I’m not saying a dentist should be struggling to get by, but it’s not realistic that such a person has a new car every year, goes on several exotic holidays, spends thousands on clothes and has the social life of a student.

I know a few people like this. Several foreign holidays a year, horribly overpriced PPR, second “investment” property, generally spend money like it’s going out of fashion. They’re also the first to complain about how desperately unfair everything is.