Talking to some civil servant friends of mine it sounds like if you have a permanent job in the civil service it sounds like basically cannot lose your job, short of a war or Coup d’état. Is this the case?
Could the government make a slew of civil servants redundant?
I’ve been working in the public sector for the last four
as soon as you pass a certain amount of time you
become permanent. I’ve yet to see someone fired,
despite witnessing some gross incompetence. NOBODY
gets fired, ever, ever. Thats why its so bloated and
impossible for anyone to reform. I say now is the time
to take on a lot of the unions, ie nurses etc. Now that the
good times are gone so is public sympathy…
What do you think would happen if they tried to force redundancies? Would people strike? If they broke the strikers would those left behind have a bit more ambition about them? Or would things return to normal do you think?
Years and years ago when I was a civil service union rep, I postualted on how best to strike and it probably still holds good.
Down tools in all revenue collecting offices, i.e. strike in Collector Generals, Customs & Excise etc
Do not strike in revenue neutral or payment offices (i.e. the rest).
Levy those not on strike (the vast majority) to pay the strikers ( minority) so no one suffers too much.
This would have the effect of reducing revenue collection to zero, while minimising savings, thus creating a serious short term deficit. How long could any government hold out?
I also took the view at the time, that public sentiment was a total red herring as public would never back public service anyway, so those who talk about maintaining public support for public service industrial action are wasting their breath.
You’ll be pleased to hear that I was considered a militant loonie by most of my union colleagues and that I am now a well adjusted productive private sector wage slave
There needs to be change in the way that people are
employed and regular reviews of their performance, if
not up to scratch then its curtains. this is what happens in the private
sector and in some areas of the public sector. For example, during
training, drs change job every 6 to 12 months, each job
requires references from the previous consultant and if
he has any problem with your work then no job no argument. i don’t think its possible to force
redundancies but you don’t have to agree to every demand
thats put forward with regard to pay and hours. The unions need to be
faced down in a strike situation eventually. because administrators
are essentially the people who make policy they protect
their own positions at the same time closing front line
services in every dept across the country so i suppose a way would be to appoint someone within the administration of a dept and explain their job is to find x amount of euro in savings from wages etc. that money can then be funnelled to front line services. During the upswing
new services are rolled out with great excitement, TDs everywhere
back slapping and shaking hands. Now where are the same sh.th…ds
as the very same services are now being closed. ON HOLIDAYS.
And the apostrophe in “CS’s” could be a stand in for the missing letters.
Just on the original comment though, during many wars and coups the CS stays intact, take for instance Ireland (while not a war or coup) as we moved from British rule.
Basically the same types inhabit CS jobs be the government Nazi puppets or democratically elected.