Celia & Fingers

[grumpy]

IRISH NATIONWIDE chief executive Michael Fingleton personally authorised a fast-tracked loan of €40,000 from the building society last year to Celia Larkin, former partner of ex-taoiseach Bertie Ahern. The payment was connected to transactions investigated by the Mahon tribunal as part of its inquiry into Mr Ahern’s personal finances.

irishtimes.com/newspaper/fro … 21194.html

[Dreaded_Estate]

I think this is a warning shot from Fingers. I would bet that he has plenty of dirt of Bertie and FF.

He may have given back the €1m bonus but what about the €27m pension?

[ixus]

Is there an emoticon with a rubbing of hands in expectation? (and maybe a lickng of lips)

[the_edge]

I think this is a warning shot from Fingers. I would bet that he has plenty of dirt of Bertie and FF.

Bingo.

[Dreaded_Estate]

Is there an emoticon with a rubbing of hands in expectation? (and maybe a lickng of lips)

We will hear nothing. They know if he is pushed he will push back on as far as they are concerned they have nothing to gain from getting the €27m back so they won’t push.

[ixus]

…Mr Fingleton approved a loan of €40,000 to Ms Larkin on March 4th, 2008 without the standard criteria being fulfilled initially on the loan application. Ms Larkin did not provide documents normally required by customers borrowing such loans when she applied for the money.

The loan was provided to Ms Larkin without showing proof of her income, identification, current account statements or details of other loans she had drawn down. Mr Fingleton personally signed off on the loan and no documentation was received by the lender when Ms Larkin’s loan was approved…

While I’m not shocked by this, I have had exposure to underwriting procedures during my career, the amount seems excessive based on lack of experience with the customer.

For an average customer, their credit rating would first be checked. Then their outstanding loans.
Such a high personal loan relative to previous personal loans would be checked. It is difficult to seeing it beign approved without prior experience within the bank. This is why fingers would have to approve.

ID and all that stuff is just your run of the mill KYC ( know your customer) which wouldn’t take a minute or two to do.

[Fiend]

We need to go after the other €27 million.

Now we are getting somewhere…

[T-B-M]

ID and all that stuff is just your run of the mill KYC ( know your customer) which wouldn’t take a minute or two to do.

She probably should have been tagged as a PEP ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_exposed_person ) given her previous relationship with Bartholomew. Afaik once a PEP always a PEP.

Some day the cap will come off on all of this gombeenism. I only hope the main protagonists and their side-kicks and those that championed them into power are still alive to be publicly shamed, humiliated and thrown destitute onto the streets.

[discostu]

Can we change the thread title, thought I was on the wrong site for a moment

[Johnny]

I think this is a warning shot from Fingers.

Correct. This sort of hookery is the filthy underbelly of the guarantee scheme.

[Stifster]

We need to go after the other €27 million.

Now we are getting somewhere…

Do you really think there is €27m there to be got…

[Dreaded_Estate]

We need to go after the other €27 million.

Now we are getting somewhere…

Do you really think there is €27m there to be got…

Of course it is still there. It is a pension and he hasn’t started to draw it down yet.

[whizzbang]

Now this is getting good!

FIGHTFIGHTFIGHT

[Stifster]

We need to go after the other €27 million.

Now we are getting somewhere…

Do you really think there is €27m there to be got…

Of course it is still there. It is a pension and he hasn’t started to draw it down yet.

I’m not so sure myself, how are you so sure?

[yoganmahew]

I believe the amount has significantly decreased, it was invested in equities - greed seems to know no bounds. It sounds like it was transferred into some sort of ARF, so it was free to be gambled with and to pass on to his heirs. If it had remained with the INBS scheme, I presume that he would have been entitled to his 2/3rds pension, and Mrs. Fingleton after his death to her widow’s pension, but after that, any residual assets would remain part of the scheme.

[bodyofevidence]

Fingers knows where the bodies are buried, has photos of them doing it and has planted GPS in the caskets. mess with him at your peril…
This is gonna be FUN!

[The_Unwelcome_Guest]

Fingers knows where the bodies are buried, has photos of them doing it and has planted GPS in the caskets. mess with him at your peril…
This is gonna be FUN!

I said he had a shovel himself…

The fund is down to about €4m after tax they were saying yesterday…

[Green_Bear]

Mahon hears of loan to repay loan
Tuesday, 3 June 2008 22:13
rte.ie/news/2008/0603/mahon.html

Celia Larkin has told the Mahon Tribunal that this year Bertie Ahern gave her a short-term loan to allow her repay the loan she had been given from the Fianna Fáil party organisation.
She said the sale of her house in Castleknock in Dublin had taken longer than expected. She expressed the view to Mr Ahern that she wanted to repay the loan as soon as possible so he agreed to transfer funds to her account to allow her repay the loan.
Ms Larkin repaid the €40,000 to Mr Ahern by cheque.
Asked how the repayment of the loan came about, Ms Larkin told the tribunal that after questions and publicity about the loan she decided to repay it.
It emerged at the tribunal this afternoon that a cheque of €45,510 was made payable to ‘Treasurers Dublin Central’ on 4 February 2008. Ms Larkin left a blank cheque in St Luke’s and staff at Mr Ahern’s office filled out the cheque which Ms Larkin had signed.

LEST WE FORGET. . .
tribune.ie/archive/article/2 … we-forget/

K IS for Cyril Kelly, the often forgotten High Court judge who resigned along with Hugh O’Flaherty because of the Sheedy affair (see S).
Kelly has still not explained adequately his generous treatment of the jailed architect;
O’Flaherty has tried but has not convinced.
Celia Larkin’s surprise visit to the O’Flaherty house on the night of his resignation had the gossips wondering and the attempted appointment of the ex-judge to the European Investment Bank a year later had them at it again.

Follow the money

[Lefournier]

Mahon hears of loan to repay loan

Tuesday, 3 June 2008 22:13
rte.ie/news/2008/0603/mahon.html

Celia Larkin has told the Mahon Tribunal that this year Bertie Ahern gave her a short-term loan to allow her repay the loan she had been given from the Fianna Fáil party organisation.
She said the sale of her house in Castleknock in Dublin had taken longer than expected. She expressed the view to Mr Ahern that she wanted to repay the loan as soon as possible so he agreed to transfer funds to her account to allow her repay the loan.
Ms Larkin repaid the €40,000 to Mr Ahern by cheque.
Asked how the repayment of the loan came about, Ms Larkin told the tribunal that after questions and publicity about the loan she decided to repay it.
It emerged at the tribunal this afternoon that a cheque of €45,510 was made payable to ‘Treasurers Dublin Central’ on 4 February 2008. Ms Larkin left a blank cheque in St Luke’s and staff at Mr Ahern’s office filled out the cheque which Ms Larkin had signed.

LEST WE FORGET. . .

tribune.ie/archive/article/2 … we-forget/

K IS for Cyril Kelly, the often forgotten High Court judge who resigned along with Hugh O’Flaherty because of the Sheedy affair (see S).
Kelly has still not explained adequately his generous treatment of the jailed architect;
O’Flaherty has tried but has not convinced.
Celia Larkin’s surprise visit to the O’Flaherty house on the night of his resignation had the gossips wondering and the attempted appointment of the ex-judge to the European Investment Bank a year later had them at it again.

Follow the money

Are you suggesting Fingers has some connection to the Sheedy affair?

[chaingang]

I’ll off to the beach…bring me news of our victory.