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#7800

longtime gatopal™ emily burns created this graphic. in it, she compares as aggregates the 10 most vaccinated states and the 10 least and benchmarks them off their own performance a year ago to control for seasonality, risk, etc.

cases are considerably higher in the high vaxx states. based on the data showing such prevalent negative VE on cases, this is not unexpected.

but what’s interesting is the deaths figures. they are down across the board, as one would expect given more immunity and milder variant, but they are down considerably more in the less vaxxed states. they also have very different slopes at the moment.

we’re dealing with lots of possible error and bias here, but the difference is substantial and if it is valid, that is not consistent with vaccines reducing severe outcomes.

it’s consistent with OAS style antigenic fixation and poor immune response overall.

so, i am sorry to say it and this is not an outcome that anyone wanted, but i’m getting pretty skeptical that vaccines are helping on severity anymore. even if they once did (and this is arguable based on how stacked the math that was used has been, though i suspect they were at least marginally effective) it does not look like they are doing much or even anything anymore.

this looks more and more to me like full OAS escape, and that means the helpfulness on severity is gone too. it might even flip it and go negative if the antigenic fixation is sufficiently severe and ineffective, but i have not seen anything like sufficient data to make such a claim at this time.

will keep at it.


#7801

This virus is not going away, says Javid

Javid finishes his statement by saying the country is “better protected than ever before” against Covid but “this virus is not going away”.

“There will be more variants and no one can be sure what threat they might pose,” he says.

Vaccines, testing and anti-virals are “the best way to protect our health and freedoms as we learn to live with Covid,” he adds.


#7802

#7803

For these Times.


#7806

#7807

Tbh, I think we might need that extra day come Paddys’ Day March, there are afterall, still a lot of snakes to clear out. :thinking:

:warning: WARNING: Reading this article may induce nausea and even vomiting. :warning:

Covid restrictions must go if there is no public health rationale, Donnelly says

…“Restrictions that impinge upon people’s freedoms, that impinge upon people’s civil liberties, they are very, very serious”

https://archive.is/6qbdf

:warning: WARNING: Reading this article may induce nausea and even vomiting. :warning:


#7808

Now the Beeb is Building 7


#7809

Sure, he recommended BTC early (as did a lot of other people on the internet) but he also recommended a lot of worthless shitcoins that have gone to zero (or close to zero) and almost all of his recent predictions have been wildly off the mark ($600 silver (this will never happen), $100k BTC parties in 2018 and 2021 etc).
He lost any remaining credibility when he recently began parroting Charlie Ward, Simon Parkes, X22 Report and putting his own little spin on it (Trump playing 9D chess when he recommends the jib-jab and he’s still working behind the scenes with the “white hats” .:suicide:). Can’t quite put my finger on it but he appears to be highly compromised (he consistently changes his narrative). Otherwise he’s most likely a disinformation agent.


#7810

Supreme court in US blocks vaccine mandate.


#7811

#MandateMonday to #FuckedFriday, where does the regime go from here here?

Well you know what the papers will be full of tomorrow…


#7812

I have a vague memory of a video were he was lambasting ward & parkes, didn’t seem to happy with them and some others but I wasn’t finding that video to engaging at the time, so don’t really recall exactly what it was all about, but then you’re into the world of UFO’s and stuff with Cliff, many don’t get this, and sure isn’t that the world of myths and legends and psychological operations exist. :whistle: :icon_beer:

Maybe he’s been a black-op influencer all along, anyone who is military kid, ya know, makes you think, they’re in the same club as Courtney Love, Jim Morrison… who else eh?

Next you’ll be telling me pop culture since the mid 60’s has been one long manufactured cultural revolution… sure that woudl need cultural ambassadors, influencers and handlers surely? I can’t think of anyone whom springs to mind… :icon_beer:

These lines of thought can continue over at the Kung Flu topic.


#7813

Who knows? Seriously. It’s something, but why & by whom? But even Twitter is pointing out that today is another delta.

https://twitter.com/papitrumpo/status/1481732102068617224

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https://twitter.com/brentgod/status/1481732732090683401


#7814

We’re all aware as well of the isolation and the impact that has on mental health.

Very telling. We’ve spoken about the mental health avalanche ongoing. But it must be getting to immense proportions that he’s worried about the coming tribunal he’ll face - kids rocking back and forth in school like Romanian orphans, extreme behavioral issues and development milestones missed in toddlers because they can’t see faces. I wonder if he just sees reports showing the Ritalin prescriptions issued doubling in under 16s and thinks ‘oh shit, I’m f*cked’


#7816

Note how the rates for infection appear to be much worse in the 2-dose vaccinated than in the unvaccinated, while hospitalisations and death rates appear to be only slightly better for those aged under 70 and pretty-much identical to those aged over 70. I note that those aged over 70 were vaccinated first in the UK, so this might simply be an effect of time since vaccination rather than an effect of age.

The scary bit is the two columns at the right, for the risk of death within 60 days of the positive covid test — the data suggests that while the vaccines offer some limited protection to those under 60 / vaccinated recently, the risk of death appears to be approximately 50% greater in the double-vaccinated, compared with the unvaccinated, for those over 70 / vaccinated first.

I have spoken before about the need to consider deaths up to 60 days after the first positive test, rather than the more commonly used 28 days.

If the UKHSA have released two-dose-only data then it appears that the vaccines substantially increase the risk of infection and that protection against hospitalisation and death wanes to zero after approximately 9 months and there are strong indications that it might even result in a substantial increased risk of death after this point.

The data suggests that those that have been vaccinated need to have the boosters to keep their risk of becoming infected low, have no residual protection after 6-9 months and might even have an increased risk of death after approximately 9 months. Of course, they can simply take their regular booster dose to keep their risk of infection and death lower than that of the unvaccinated — but is that what they understood would be the case when they were originally offered the vaccines? And, of course, there is no guarantee that they won’t be affected by serious vaccine side effects as time progresses and the number of doses increases…

There is another explanation — it is possible that we’re seeing the same effect that we saw earlier in the year with the first and second doses. That is, that they’re avoiding giving the booster dose to those close to death for reasons other than covid. This would concentrate those individuals into the two dose group, and as that group has relatively few people in it for the older age groups this will give the appearance of increasing death rates in the two-dose-only group. While this effect will have most effect on deaths other than from covid, at least some of those close to death will catch covid and because of their frailty they will be more likely to die with their infection.

Of course, there is a consequence if this is the case — because the boosted population excludes those most likely to die the vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation/death will appear to be much greater than it is in reality.

It is unclear whether these two dose only data show a real increase in risk of death from the vaccines, or if it is actually an artefact due to concentrating those most at risk of death into the two-vaccine-dose group — but, either way, the vaccines are not performing anywhere near as well as we are being told.


#7817

#7818

The long, slow climbdown begins…with the pretense of everything being managed, controlled and based on “public health” advice…


#7819

Yes Indeed as posted yesterday here Coronavirus 2020 Minister for Pfizer one of too many Snakes.


#7820

Maybe next time we can follow science instead of The Science, wha?


#7822

All getting tired playing pandemic now

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1481848144946151426?s=20


#7823

to demolish the “vaxx for society and to save hospitals” message:

even if it’s just a push and you trade a doubling of case risk for a halving of hospital severity, you have a doubled risk of having the virus. so you have doubled your risk of spreading the virus and doubled the risk of everyone around you, vaxxed and unvaxxed alike.