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#7661

I was watching a Dr John Campbell video yesterday and right at the end he explored the development of omicron, it seems that the variant emerged from nowhere in humans and could have been incubated in mice and then jumped to humans.

He is doing a follow up this evening, could be interesting.


#7662

https://twitter.com/i/status/1477986285478461440

Kate is a Speciality Doctor in Elderly Care who has consistently been on the frontline throughout this period & many years service She’s now facing end of career due to mandates Let’s stand #together with brave staff #NoMandates #TogetherDeclaration


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#7664

From Heroes to Zeros within a year - It’s a universal pattern across the west, well established in 2021, the HSE harass and bully and intimidate and redeploy their medical staff who refuse or question, but I wonder how it is when it comes to the cleaners, porters and various other service support staff, do they redeploy cleaners, but exactly where, admin positions? :whistle:


#7665

Keep an eye out for the media quoting this Danish paper saying that “unvaxed” spread the infection.

The paper leaves out key information. For a start of the 11K study population there is no breakdown of unvaxed / partial vaxed / vaxed or the actual number of infections per group. Kind of important when its the only vax supporting number in the paper. Given the range of the confidence interval of “unvaxed” v booster group the “unvaxed” must have been a very small number. Probably less than 10%… And given that the average household size was just over 2 this makes a huge difference for calculating transmittability in a very short period of time.

What the paper does show is that any the vaxed at much more likely to get infected with any new variants due to

This indicates that the increased trans-missibility of the Omicron VOC primarily can be ascribed to immune evasion rather than an inherent increase in the basic transmissibility.

And when you look at this chart as SARs CoV 2 has such a low R0 this means that any efficacy from the shots and boosters wears off after 60 day or so. Which is about all you need for a new variant to have a breakout.

So its going to be 5 or 6 boosters a year. The time for the rollout of each booster being longer than the time period any particular variant will be dominant.


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#7667

This article appears to set out an alternative interpretation of the insurance company figures to that of Robert Malone

Implication being that deaths are up due to low take up of vaccinations.

Also suggests that insurance premiums are being increased in areas with low vaccination rates.

There’s also a reference to staff in insurance companies refusing to work with unvaccinated colleagues.

Obviously zero consideration of why the uptick in deaths would only have commenced in late 2021 ie difficult to explain that aspect away

Does anyone have a link to the insurance company’s statements/actuarial tables?


#7668

In Table 2, look at the width of the Confidence Interval very big for “unvax” which means a small data set. Very narrow for the Booster, which means it has the much larger dataset. A 0.10 in 0.30 / 0.50 range means the value might be plausible. But an almost 0.50 for a 2.01 / 2.6 means show me the original data before I’ll start taking you seriously.

The missing data is only one small table or about two or three lines of text. If data like this is missing from a paper my first question is why. Given the nature of the conclusion.


#7669

There seems to be no primary source apart from this report. Written by a NPR reporter who spent most of his careers as a sports reporter. NPR is even more hysterically COVIDIAN than the BBC or RTE

Separating out the obvious leading question replies in the article the key point is that non COVID related deaths in the demographic which accounts for less than 10% of all "COVID " deaths have gone up 40%. Until we have reliable data I’d guess based on the CDC numbers that 10% to 20% are vaccine related and the rest, the the other 80% to 90%, are due to deferred medical treatment and deferred diagnosis due to the catastrophic public health policies of the last two years.


#7670

Quick check in to see how Japan (pop. 125 million) is doing.

Ireland (pop. 6 million) yesterday


#7671

NEW - Australia’s Northern Territory has imposed a China-like lockdown of all unvaccinated citizens, claiming “they are at greater risk of catching Covid.”

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1479027609312935936


#7672

And Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures — which distinguish deaths caused by Covid from those where the virus was merely incidental — shows fatalities dropped for the sixth week in a row in the seven days leading up to Christmas Eve.

Wasn’t aware…

And in NT in Aus you can’t even go out for exercise if you’re vaccine free: :rofl:


#7673

This is essential viewing below. I’m sure most people on here have heard Dr. Mattias Desmet speak, an expert on Mass Formation. Every interview we learn some extra incredible nuggets of wisdom on this phenomenon. It’s pretty clear now that the Science is out the window on Covid and it’s a psychological phenomenon taking place. Dr Robert Mallone and Dr Peter McCullough join on this podcast. Well worth taking the time to watch.


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#7675

What is new is old no?

Posted back in April.

Alan Watt last broadcast was March, 4th 2020, what a moment to exit, de advised, he’s probably the most depressive listen, think he made his money on the tune somehow “baker st”, went off to live in Canada, started his site wed/podcast years ago, anyway, form meory, it’s all in there.

https://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/index.html


#7676

It’s interesting to watch many of these highly educated academics and public figures going through the same process that many of us went through during the mass formation event that was the Irish property bubble over a decade ago.

Interesting also to hear how highly credentialed people tend to be more susceptible to the group think around these events.

Most interesting of all is the good doctor’s suggestion that efforts to resist moves toward a ‘new normal’ will ultimately likely result in violent reaction on the part of those who have bought into the narrative ie he suggests that the prevailing conditions of the ‘old normal’ are what caused the initial susceptibility in the majority and they will resist any attempts to return them to a reality that made them deeply unhappy to begin with.

Ultimately, it’s up to those who object to the more ludicrous aspects of the mass formation event to conceive of a ‘new normal’ that is superior to the old and avoids the ongoing descent into technocratic overkill and mass surveillance.

It’s a big ask….


#7677

It is.

But I disagree with him about going back to an old normal.

What ultimately atomised and isolated us was technology, captured by capitalism, leading to individualism and progressivism. If, by old normal, he means that state of techno-progressivism, then yes, we do need to move to something else other than that. But people need to wake up first and see much of what has gone on in the world lately as a failed experiment. People need to get back to in-person community and bonds of fellowship based on common values - a state which is fundamental to the health of the human being and humanity. This is like an “older” “old-normal” (to use Desmet’s terms). There are fundamental truths about the human condition that never change, no matter how many times we like to structure society as if they don’t matter, or can be dispensed with.

However, technology is so baked into our society now, it is difficult to separate it from society, and impossible to remove it, so that it will have to remain in some form, but reworked. Only some kind of revolution (and it ain’t WEF’s 4th Industrial Revelation!) that reshapes our attitude to science and technology and gives it an appropriate place in human affairs, but at the same time allows us to move on into a more mature relationship to tech. that is healthy.


#7678

It’s not a “revolution” when friends start jeering each other for playing with their phones in company. That’s natural. And you’ll see it more.

I remember thinking 10 years ago that porn would be so ubiquitous it would be discussed. I was wrong. It will always be furtive. And soon, touching your phone when in-person will be like picking your nose.


#7679

Yep even a bit ‘girly’…


#7680

What ultimately atomised and isolated us was technology, captured by capitalism, leading to individualism and progressivism. If, by old normal, he means that state of techno-progressivism, then yes, we do need to move to something else other than that. But people need to wake up first and see much of what has gone on in the world lately as a failed experiment. People need to get back to in-person community and bonds of fellowship based on common values - a state which is fundamental to the health of the human being and humanity. This is like an “older” “old-normal” (to use Desmet’s terms). There are fundamental truths about the human condition that never change, no matter how many times we like to structure society as if they don’t matter, or can be dispensed with.

I’d agree with all that. But there does appear to be a bit of a problem in that many of those who are to the fore in resisting the current nonsense have track records of having been part of the cohort who’ve been gouging the rest of the majority for decades.

Your average Irish entrepreneur has historically tended to be very much in favour of closed shop capitalism and price gouging has been a national pastime throughout the course of my lifetime. It’s likely why there’s very little solidarity or sympathy for the likes of publicans (as an example) who are supposedly feeling the brunt of the current economic malaise. Of course the most recent exchequer figure’s would suggest that most have actually done pretty well out of the past 2 years in financial terms and so maybe are happy enough with the ‘ new normal ‘ in its current form.

There seems to be very few sectors who have seen their material circumstances decline.

Hard to know what comes next.