Depositors will get shares for 6.75 to 9.9 % of their deposits.
Did they throw their pension fund at the problem like we did?
You can take money from people with no savings by taxing them to give the people who had savings their money back.
Or you can have the better off people with savings and bondholders/investors take a haircut.
Or you can mix both methods.
Moral hazard abounds either way. Personally I think it is grotesque to make someone with no savings pay money into someone elses deposit account via taxes or any other method. Had we taken this route back in 2008 it would have shaken things up and we would have had heads on plates and reforms. Our current path was the one of least resistance and worse it is a circular path.
How do you feel about welfare then? Should people on welfare live a hand-to-mouth existence?
It’s just a payback for the 21 tons of heroin that Russia recently stole from Afghanastan. Bit of a shot in the foot I suspect.
Turmoil in Cyprus Over a Bailout Rattles Europe - → nytimes.com/2013/03/18/busin … banks.html
Run on banks in Cyprus adds to eurozone woes → timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl … 028041.cms
lots more in the Cyprus thread
The really worrying thing about all this is that the whacko, nut-job, guns n’ beans n’ bunkers crowd have been crowing about this for years.
The strange thing is that what was complete feckin lunacy from the edge of the web in 2007 has now, in many respects, happened as mainstream economic policy.
I concur on the Russia thing. This is a targeted and costed move against Russian money in Cyprus.
There is no way the Germans are going to refund their deposits in the event of a bank crash.
I’d imagine the government will ‘cave in’ to pressure (after various court cases) and announce that any moneys for which tax receipts can be provided will be exempt.
The banks are closed officially until at least thursday and perhaps until next week with only residents being allowed to move or withdraw cash in March.
Russian gentlement with shades and leather jackets have made their displeasure known to Cypriot MPs. The longer the MPs leave this vote ( due tomorrow earliest) the more difficult the Russian gentlement with shades and leather jackets will make it for them and if they do not vote one way or another this week then they won’t vote at all.
Expect this one to run. They should have gotten it with over with today. Russian gentlement with shades and leather jackets are flying in as we speak under instructions from their Muscovite masters.
Russian Gentlemen or Russia in general expressing displeasure the front page of The TImes
“Cyrpus Crisis deepens as Russia threatens EU”
Anyway never mind the Russians and lets discuss important stuff, Lindsay Lohan just arbed the slammer for 90 days in Rehab.
Banks closed , as predicted upthread, till NEXT tuesday at least.
Capital controls thereafter. “Smell that? You smell that? That’s toast, son. Nothing else in the world smells like it. I love the
smell of toast in the morning. You know, this one time, we cooked these beans, for twelve hours… when it was over I went up there… we didn’t find one of ‘em, not one stinkin’ sausage. But, you know, that smell… that bangers and beans on toast smell… the whole eurozone… it smelled like… panic.”"
Picked this up from somewhere. Could have been here but the article is worth reading. To wit,
theatlantic.com/business/arc … er/274096/
Cypriots acting the maggot imo.
guardianlv.com/2013/03/jd-cyprus … retaliate/
Explains why NOBODY voted for the deal either. Maybe Putin will call off the dudes in shades and leather jackets …maybe not.
As Erik Nielsen of UniCredit argues, depositors in Cyprus have benefited from higher rates of interest than elsewhere in the eurozone:
“A Cypriot (or foreigner) who placed €100,000 in deposit in Cyprus in 2008 would by now have earned just around €15,000 more than if he had placed that money in Italy or Spain (and some €23,000 more than if he had placed it in Germany). Why does the Cypriot parliament (and many commentators) seem to suggest that a 15 per cent tax on such deposits (which would cover the bill also for the sub-€100,000 deposits) would be unreasonable now the banks are in trouble, but that German, Italian and other eurozone taxpayers should rather foot the bill? To me, the Cypriot position is simply unsellable in the rest of the eurozone.”
Putin is at least comfortable with how to use his credentials, not unlike like but different at the same time to how Geithner really helped our Ireland. The people of Ireland should send him a postcard.
Guess we’re all Magdalenes nows… gonna need a bigger fund!
Grandmother in Cyprus receives valuable advice from Russian economist grandson
Posted on March 21, 2013 by John IrvingAn elderly resident of Pathos in Cyprus has been doing something odd for the past few weeks. **Every Friday she goes to the bank and withdraws all of her money, then returns it on Monday. **When asked why she gave the following statement to bank employees:
“My son is an economist in Russia and he has been telling me, if something happens with the Cypriot banks, it will happened on the weekend. He told me to withdraw the money every Friday.”
She was laughed at by the bank employees, but now unlike most of the country she has access to her money while the banks in Cyprus stay closed until at least Tuesday of next week. While the Cypriot legislature did not pass a bill that would have taken between 6.75% and 10% of bank deposits, who knows what desperate politicians will do now to get their fix of financial aid from the IMF. At least one person won’t be affected, thanks to a caring grandson.
I believe that to be a “made up” story, but it’s quite funny.