Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the US


#2046

#2047

And that justifies telling a native born American to go back to where they came from, based on their skin colour?


#2048

Have you a link to this tweet you are referring to with the “go back to where they came from” statement?


#2049

What does their skin colour have to do with anything? You’re reading far too much into his tweets in my opinion. If Trump told Irish or other Europeans to go back to where they came from would you consider that to be “racist”?
Did you actually read the tweets in their entirety or did you just read some reactionary articles in the massively biased mainstream media?

He said “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it’s done” Wacist how???


#2050

Of course. What do you take me for?

The point is, he didn’t. He chose four so-called “people of colour”. Those represent 23% of the current House. The odds that four people picked at random are from that group are around one in forty. How would you explain this oddity? (The fact they are all women makes it considerably more rarefied, but let’s ignore that for now).

And your own question gives the game away. They weren’t Irish, European or anything else. They were American citizens (born and bred, in three cases out of four). To you and Trump, they apparently looked non-American. Why is that?

Unless the crime infested place he is talking about is the United States, he’s picked the wrong people in three out of four cases. How do you reconcile that, other than that in Trump’s mind: person of colour = “foreigner from a shithole”?


#2051

He selected them not at random, but because they are Justice Democrats, he’s trying to speed up the growing split in the party


#2052

As opposed to… ? The transparent people, perhaps?

:roll_eyes:


#2053

Hence my use of quotes. It’s commonly used terminology, not mine.


#2054

Yet he did so little research he didn’t know where they were from?


#2055

I don’t know, I’m sure he knew where Omar was from, is it not a bit unfair that one side can play up the fact that they have immigrant roots endlessly while the other side can’t say a word about it, Pelosi got into trouble for the same thing too, the justice Democrats seem to win primaries by targeting white Democrats from a district with an ethnic voting bloc

Eg Muslim Omar replaced Jewish Phyllis Kahn, AOC replaced far too pale Joe Crowley, it may well have been Saikat Chakrabarti and middle aged Turk Chenk Uygur who came up with this strategy, a growing number of sitting Democrats are venerable to it

If most of the Justice Democrats are from “minorities” are they now immune from any criticism


#2056

Yiz are gas and some tell me they understand the Trump admin and how it all works.

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly…

…and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how…

…it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

(14 Jul)

There are about 3/4 things going in that string of tweets and none of it is as reported.

The Formula is very easy to see at this point.

The Trump admin baits the media (targeted).
The media take the bait (each time).
Result: Exposure

I see no value in then taking the media bait thereafter and running with it, (it comes across as a counter move to wrestle the narrative back from Trump and backfires), nor do many Americans at this point - They have learned.

  • The (Zombie) media are under peril of death/hamstrung to admit this (i.e. dead already).
  • **Zombie Media still follows orders. (not Trumps orders but the ***Enemy)
  • Zombie Media re-actions, work in favour of Trump admin (targeted/exposure/outcome).

**The reason the formula continues to work years on, is because the media can not admit/reveal their true ***position.

Fundamentally the continual baiting is designed to expose a subject/person at a point in time for a very particular purpose via the medias own apparatus to the public, for one or more specific purposes and outcomes in the immediate or part of a longer reveal and interplay down the line.

Lets try this with another tweet and subject of recent days:

Trump tweeted out about Bitcoin and it had serious effect on the price (you might also argue that’s not the only reason it fell or why he tweeted) - seems he’s racist when it comes to Crypto too but the media somehow don’t seem to care? People lost money. Why was that not used against Trump who is all about people making money right?

Trump

I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity…

72K

1:15 AM - Jul 12, 2019

What’s going on here?

  • Trump Admin introduce crypto as a thing (exposure)
  • You have to ask yourself why now? (one desired outcome of many)
  • Does not matter intro is painted in negative light (controversy gets attention + setup)
  • It’s wiped 10% of the value of bitcoin - (Trump the crypto bigot! Yet no MSM ire???)
  • That’s a lot of money and many Trump supporters are probably in Bitcoin.
  • Who else uses bitcoin, Trumps enemies i.e. Americas enemies? (Think)
  • Who are Americas enemies and how do they use bitcoin?
  • It was a direct hit on the enemy.
  • Media can not report their loss.

There are many here who have long held views the same as Trump and thus are also “not a fan” of bitcoin, so you’re Trump supporters and therefore racists… only kidding’ :wink: See how that works?

In two words: Stage Setting.

This is what the media do day in day out (you have ot ask but for who?) all over the world and maybe, just maybe for once the most powerful position of office in the world, is using the tricks which other (bad) actors have used to successfully manipulate the world into a grand position - Is Trump admin turning the tables and running them out of town with a dose of their own medicine?

Well, many believe this to be self evidently true. Maybe it’s all horseshit.

The world was told very specifically by the Trump admin at the beginning that the enemy had occupied the media.

Mostly everyone outside the US more or less, ignored this information (thus remained within control of their geo-local media hubs).

The media are hand in glove intelligence operations at this point (how do you think they managed to get by in the Global Financial Crash?) If you still consume it you must assume most of your world view is carefully crafted and programmed. Top level high quality mind junk crafted by some of the most brilliant but immoral minds out there. The rest of media is filler, nor is it not much good either, the contagion is powerful so it works through the system to all aspects of media. Entertainment, children TV and Film programming etc. etc. … mind meme’s galore!

Finally, lets put this in a wider and more recent context.

When the media cry/print/headline/repeat after me - “RACIST!” (the NEW today’s Russia tomorrow Russia etc. etc. ) what they mean is NOT EPSTEIN -

ANYTHING BUT EPSTEIN!

Yet you would think that this was golden chance to take Trump down, before TRUMP got a chance to put EPSTEIN into the care of the US justice system (and Assange {soon}, El Chappo, Renire and many others).

The enemy has only ever retained it’s power by being hidden to the masses on the planet.

The technique of the Trump Admin is to cause it to come out into the light and to strategically chop off a tentacled arm here and there. Do you like that imagery? :slight_smile:

Going back to the tweet. AOC recently and controversially called Pelsoi a racist or so the story goes… oh. Not much reporting on that was there? There was.

So I went to have a look and found this quote from an AOC interview:

Ocasio-Cortez did not tweet. But she did talk to the Washington Post , the newspaper of record in the capital city:

“When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post. “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”

It appears AOC who clearly implied that Nancy Pelsoi was singling them out in terms of “people of color”, the very same thing then levelled at Trump by the media call outs.

They flipped it and projected that controversy onto Trump, can you see it? It’s a regular reporting tactic by the looks of it.

This is why they puled the race card to cover tracks, wrestle their kitchen table drama back from Trump using it against them and also pin something negative on Trump (weak move) and Trump Admin then throws it right back and makes hay for days and days out of it.

Trump reacts to AOC comments (12 Jul)

"…cortez should treat Nancy Pelosi with respect she should not be doing what she is doing… and I’ll tell you something about Nancy Pelosi you know better than I do she is not a racist… for them to call her a racist is a disgrace"

A Few days after Trump is now the Racist after deafending Pelosi ageing AOC - I guess they didn’t like that subtle power move - yea the Trump admin is absolutely capitalising on the inner division within the Dems and the later tweet string was also designed to divide the dems and keep it going, (who are also polling weak as already mentioned by other posters) - are in a panic that their hopefuls are not only chasing the elder guard and devouring them but causing it problems by failing to impress American voters and now serve as figureheads of pillory and controversy for Trump admin to consistently attack (on it’s terms) and introduce all other kinds of information points to further undermine.


This is WAR not politics - “All is fair in Love and War”

A popular turn of phrase comes to mind about Trump “living rent free” in the minds of liberals, look like the same thing here - Trump get’s free exposure 24/7 and the enemy pays on more than one count.

The real question for those outside of the US of A to my way of seeing things is - what side is my country/group on and is that cool in the longterm?


#2057

I fail to see how telling a Somali to touch off back to Somalia and fix her own country is racist. I really don’t see how Somalis can give out about the USA especially a millionaire Somali who owes everything to the USA. The entitlement and hypocrisy is astonishing. Then again that’s exactly what you get with these socialists. I think the silent majority can see right through these leftists and Trump will win a landslide as long as the economy holds up.


#2058

What about the other three, born in Cincinatti, Detroit, and the Bronx?


#2059

No, you just can’t say “go back to where you came from”.

No, you just can’t say “go back to where you came from”.

This is not difficult stuff. You can criticise your opponents’ politics all you like. You can’t tell American-born citizens to go back to where they came from based on their skin colour.


#2060

I think trump clarified he was referring to the al queda supporter whose country was a failed state. So that just refers to one. The fact that the blatant hypocrisy of these champagne socialists is never touched in by the msm is quite disturbing.


#2061

As I said earlier, that wasn’t a clarification, that was back-pedalling. Completely different to the content of his Tweets. When asked to confront the racism question he blustered, obfuscated and changed the subject. Now it was about Ilhan Omar only. Curious to see so many people rush to support the new narrative.

I also find it curious as a conservative that I’m forced to take the other side. I can’t stand these Dems. One of them was a photo shoot model for Planned Parenthood fer Crissake! But it is a slippery slope when you let a racist prez start rewriting reality for the sake of political expediency.


#2062

It’s often said, as people age they get more conservative. I think process might be occurring in reverse in your case.
You’ll probably have blue hair by the end of week at the current rate.

Any luck finding a link to Trumps original tweet about “going back where they came from”?

Often with Trumps statements and the media rection, there’s games of baiting & selective editing that goes on…


#2063

It’s seems clear who is pointing the finger at who, but where is Trump?


#2064

You’re a smart guy, ps200306. Why are you still struggling with this? I will highlight the part that you need to read again and again till you get it.

He’s telling them go go back and fix their countries and then return to the US with their new found expertise on how to fix a broken system. You’ve isolated the “Go back to your own countries” bit to suit your own agenda here.


#2065

Bill still says Alex Jones says Biden is potentially dropping out of the 2020 race due to health issues.

(Report begins 1:00)

Is this possibly the first in a line of soon to be common health concerns among current and former US politicians of a certain era and vintage? :whistle: :ninja: