Saw most of this,firstly this figure of 30% drop in house prices seemed to be quoted as fact. Secondly Mark Clinton remember him says the price of agricultural land has halved in two years. A little old lady in the Midlands featured husband was dead. She wanted to sell 38 acres had hoped to achieved €600k was now hoping for €500k.
An auctioneer said last year good land was getting $15k to $20k an acre now it was $10k.
Clinton said comparable land in the UK was about $7-8K USA was about $5K
I still can’t get my head around why agricultural land is valued at €13,000 per acre. A farmer would be lucky to make €500 per year from acre. 5,000 sounds sensible
I meant to watch this but got home late. The biggest driver I knew of in agricultural land prices were farmers who had sold land to developers/NRA and looking to reinvest as quick as possible to avail of roll over relief and avoid capital gains tax. The second biggest driver was builders, and I use that term advisedly, because I mean the lads who would actually build houses or at most very small developments investing their profit in an extension to the family farm or buying a farm of their own.
The return on farmland used for agricultural purposes is about 1% p/a.
The ecomonics have become really warped by selling land for housing.
If you haven’t got land to sell for sites or development, then you can’t compete with the farmers that do when it comes to buying more land.
The housing crash will help bring a bit more sanity.
Roll over relief is long gone. Simply sticking with what they know. Most farmers will remember the collapse in land prices in the 80’s and have purchased land with their eyes wide open as regards falling values - unlike good ol canny. Some of the more imaginative ones invested in bank shares and bank promoted investment products. Capital losses all round.
Half that €500 will be made up of subsidies (REPS and Single Farm Payment). These also helped push up values. The other main factors are the high off farm income that most farmers have either themselves or their partners’, low interest rates and tax free forestry premiums for the poorer quality land.
€150 per acre pa as a return from farming land would be considered good.
At €15K an acre that is 1% yield and the farmer has to do a lot of work for it.
Tillage land in the US had risen from $2,000 per acre to $4,000 per acre in the last 7 years, but with the fall in oil prices and lower price for corn/biofuels and the lower availability of credit, the prices are starting to ease back in the US.
We good get to €4K an acre very quick in Ireland for good farm land.