Elizabeth Warren - A One-Woman Ass-Kickin' Machine!


That’s all very well, I don’t dispute anything there, but it’s not in the slightest bit relevant to the point of contention, which is, whether or not the issue of the Medicaid “bump” got fixed last month. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe it did, and provided the WBUR link in support.

You, on the other hand, have provided a big fat zero in support of the alternative case, that it was not fixed, so I don’t really understand what the hell you’re complaining about, and I’m not sure you know either.

Your post is also totally totally irrelevant, totally, to your claim that I do not understand the distinction between Medicaid and Medicare. Put up, or shut up.

As to your assertion that because of my alleged ignorance, further discussion is pointless,…well you’re not adhering to your own sentiment. Oops!


The decision whether to extend the Medicaid bump will be decided at a state level because, although it heavily subsidized by Washington, It is state run. 23 states have decided not to continue it.
advisory.com/daily-briefing/ … d-pay-bump
In these 23 states I believe Medicaid patients, particularly new patients will have difficulty finding primary care physicians.You dismissed my original point that primary care physician access is a serious ongoing issue. I have shown that it has being widely studied and discussed and is a serious issue.
The other point was the compulsory nature of Obama care. This was it’s most contentious and unpopular aspect. But it was essential in order to avoid the “death spiral” which BoyRacer alleges is happening. The Supreme Court ruled that the “mandate” was a tax and therefore constitutional. Now like all taxes it only applies above a certain income level. So if you household income level was below this level you were not liable. But this cohort were meant to be covered by the Medicaid expansion. Certain states decided not to do the Medicaid expansion {Texas and Florida being the biggest} so many people who should have gained insurance did not. For everybody else above the income level the choice is get insurance or pay the tax. if you think that’s not compulsory fair enough but I do.
If you are familiar with Medicare/Medicaid, then you will know that, unlike the senior lobby, the poor do not have political clout in Washington. It would be hard to see any expansion of programmes to help the poor under a Republican controlled Congress which has traditional being hostile to there interest.


I agree entirely that Medicaid is a state issue, generally speaking. But with the ACA states had the option of setting up their own “exchanges” or participating in the Federally operated exchange, Healthcare.gov. Here’s an excerpt from an explainer.

I haven’t checked, but I’d be willing to bet that all the 23 states that have not re-upped the bump come from the 36 who opted to participate in the Federal system rather than set up their own. So for those 36, the Federal “bump” subsidy was critical, and the Feds have come good and re-upped. If 23 states choose not to avail of it, that’s a local, not Federal Obamacare political decision. Different state governments on different days might make different decisions. Who knows?

I’d accept that new patients may have greater difficulty than existing patients, but how much more difficulty is at this point unknowable, and because it’s unlikely to be uniform, is therefore not a reliable basis for critique of Obamacare.

Again, please don’t try to put words in my mouth. I did not “dismiss” your original point that primary care physician access is an ongoing serious issue. Instead I contradicted the assertion implicit in your claim, i.e. that primary care was more difficult to access than specialist care. Here’s what I actually said:

As to the rest of your post, I don’t disagree with what you say, but it doesn’t get you off the hook for wrongly claiming Obamacare is obligatory, when in fact the intention, but not the desire, was to leave thirty million uncovered.

This thread has drifted off-topic, Elizabeth Warren has not been a leader on Obamacare issues, and I’m getting tired of correcting the statements you’ve attempted to attribute to me, so this is the last I’ll have to say on the issue here.
If you wish to continue criticizing Obamacare, I suggest you start a thread.


An example of the increasing amount of press critical of Warren. Not so long ago she walked on water, or is that her grasp extends beyond reach?

DID WARREN GO TOO FAR WITH MARY JO WHITE SLAM? - POLITICO’s Patrick Temple-West and Ben White: "Wall Street and the White House had a swift and furious reaction to Elizabeth Warren’s blazing attack on Securities and Exchange Commission Chair Mary Jo White: Senator, you’ve gone too far. … Defenders of White’s tenure at the regulatory agency said Warren’s 13-page letter attacking the SEC chair raised highly questionable points and badly mischaracterized the actions of a widely respected former federal prosecutor.

"'I don’t understand Sen. Warren’s criticism of White for recusing herself where there is a conflict of interest,; said Wayne Abernathy, a top lobbyist for the American Bankers Association, referring to Warren’s criticism that White isn’t involved in SEC actions when her husband’s law firm represents the companies involved. ‘Is it that she would prefer that the chairman go forward and participate in enforcement cases despite the conflict of interest?’

“When he nominated White two years ago, President Barack Obama said, 'You don’t mess with Mary Jo,” citing the diminutive former prosecutor’s record winning cases against terrorists and financial criminals during her 1993 to 2002 tenure as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, which many consider the most prominent prosecutorial position in the country. …

“But Warren clearly ‘messed with Mary Jo’ on Tuesday, and the White House was not happy about it. 'The president continues to believe that the reasons that he chose her, based on her experience and her values, continue to be important today,” press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters. “The president does continue to believe that she is the right person for the job.’”
WHITE DEFENDED -** "White defenders said the SEC was always clear that she would have to recuse herself on certain cases. And senators, including Warren, voted to confirm her anyway. ‘It is rather extraordinary for a U.S. Senator to send this kind of letter to one of our more distinguished public servants,’ said Robert Kelner of law firm Covington & Burling, an expert on political compliance. ‘The allegation concerning recusal seems to me especially unfair because the Senate was very much on notice that under existing law Mary Jo White would have to recuse herself form a variety of matters.’ Kelner added that ‘the criticism of agency inaction on corporate political disclosure also seems misplaced because corporate political disclosure has utterly nothing to do with the SEC. It’s a beef that should be taken up with the Federal Election Commission.’ politi.co/1JoiK3e
WARREN DEFENDED - A former SEC official emails:** 'I don’t often agree with Senator Warren’s views of the markets, but her view of the SEC’s leadership under Chair White seems spot on. … Despite an incredibly talented staff, the SEC has nothing to show for its last several years. Partisanship isn’t to blame. It’s leadership. The Chair’s autocratic style and refusal to compromise means that every issue is a fight - with battles at the staff and Commission levels. … Given that, and the Chair’s lack of securities regulation experience, it’s not surprising that she has made essentially no progress on finalizing rules that are now several years overdue. Forget about ever getting final derivatives rules, the Consolidated Audit Trail, or meaningful disclosure reforms.

“As for her enforcement record, that also speaks for itself. Large firms are still allowed to avoid the supposedly automatic consequences of their misconduct-even as the conduct has grown worse and more frequent. Criminal lying, cheating and stealing? No problem. Have your shareholders pay a lot of money and we’ll be fine. The Chair’s initially splashy revisions to the ‘no admit or deny’ policy have proven to be a joke. Oh, and smart folks facing SEC action may have now figured out that they can deadlock the Commission by hiring the Chair’s husband.” Full email: bit.ly/1dKshGp

ICBA’s Cam Fine: “We agree with Sen Warren on this issue. The SEC has been more of a lap dog than Doberman when it comes to Wall Street regulation and enforcement. I mean how many times do the Wall Street mega banks have to plead criminally guilty to law breaking before the SEC does anything real or hold even a single individual accountable?? Does a Wall Street Exec have to be standing over a body before the SEC will take action?”

ONE MORE VIEW - From a senior Wall Street Dem: "On the one hand, not remarkable at all. Senators, members of Congress, and their staffs love to write these long detailed polemics accusing nominees of not living up to their expectations and commitments they made at the time of their nominations. Of course, Warren’s letters receive disproportionate coverage (even relative to a note by HFSC Chair Hensarling) because they largely echo (reinforce?) views held by the (liberal) media.

“And while it’s pretty outrageous to basically call the President’s appointee to run the SEC an unprincipled liar, it’s not exactly the first time between her highly personalized attacks on Michael Froman, Tim Geithner (he’s on the side of the banks), Antonio Weiss (remember Paris?), and even Janet Yellen.”


Elizabeth’s a house flipper. Done did it a least five times. Maybe The Pin show bestow an honorary membership.

townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ … r-n2004731


Elizabeth Warren questions a banker. Ouch!
Why can’t our Dáil banking committee do this?


That’s great. Well worth watching.


Because she doesn’t play golf with him & he doesn’t organise soft loans for her ?







thejournal.ie/elizabeth-war … 2-Dec2018/


I response to Elizabeth Warren, who claims to be native american, yet an ancestry proved she is less native american that the average white person

He is the King of Trolls.

I imagine he is rubbing his little hands with glee at the thought of running against her, surely the democrats wouldn’t be stupid enough to nominate her.


It really is amazing that one minor exaggeration is held up as a showstopper for Warren whereas Trump lying about just about everything is not.

My favourite Trump lie is the source of his wealth. It’s been fairly well documented that his family systematically evaded taxes on Fred’s fortune, and yet it doesn’t seem to have dented him at all despite going to the core of his identity as a supposed successful self-made man.


But in this case the minor exaggeration got her a tenured position at Harvard


What is the evidence for that?


It’s probably more enjoyable for the average Joe Soap when overly pious, preachy individuals are caught out lying or being hypocritical…along the lines of why so many Irish people enjoyed the fall of The Church.

I don’t think anyone with any insight into human nature would assume Donald Trump to be anything but a guy with a past who is probably economical with the truth. In the preachy times we live in that’s a large part of what sets him apart from the crowd…and many people seem to live him for it


Do you know how Harvard works

They’re big into the whole diversity BS, and its now getting them into some trouble, Asian students are now suing them for discrimination, and they clearly have a very good case

So Warren has pissed off people who dislike affirmative action on principle, and people who agree with affirmative action but dislike frauds like Warren, don’t expect her to do well with black voters in some primaries, Bernie had the same problem for different reasons


the Tony Cascarino of US politics.

Harvard, lets portray native Americans as savage barbarians while pretending to celebrate them and give ourselves a pat on the back for inclusivity.


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