Fukushima


#341

Wild boars are now wrecking the houses around Fukushima, making it unlikely they will ever again be habitable. Feel sorry for the potter whose family lived there for 18 generations / 300 years.

bbc.com/news/world-asia-35761143


#342

If the area is uninhabitable it’s not because wild boar are wrecking the houses.


#343

If the wild boar are healthy and thriving, that suggests that it probably isn’t uninhabitable. :wink:


#344

Uninhabitable for wild boars you mean :slight_smile: Would you eat one of them?


#345

If it were eat or be eaten, sure, though I might have to wrestle the gun from its trotters. :wink:


#346

TV doc…

kcet.org/shows/nhk-special/ … own-part-1


#347

Take a look at that BBC video again.
There is a brief, less than 15 second part, near the start, where a Japanese person holding the radiation meter indicates the high levels detected on the ground adjacent to the building where rainwater has fallen down from the roof and gathered the radiation in a concentrated area.

Then the story goes and talks about wild animal, boar, invasion of the house space and making a mess etc.

This is story telling taking the focus away from the radiation and putting it on natural items.

Part of the general mind games of blaming nature while it’s really a mans fault.


#348

kcet.org/redefine/everythin … ive-whales


#349

Not specific to Fukushima but worth a listen


#350

And a response by Professor Chris Busby. Worth reading to get a view of the other argument.

Is Fukushima’s nuclear nightmare over? Don’t count on it, RT


#351

That thyroid cancer “epidemic”. scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/03/21/how-overdiagnosis-produced-a-nonexistent-epidemic-of-thyroid-cancer-in-fukushima/


#352

Chernobyl Liquidator Studies - -> iangoddard.com/chernobylworkers.htm

Chernobyl campaigner Adi Roche urges UN not to forget disaster - -> irishtimes.com/news/world/us … -1.2625405

Two children of Chernobyl who were adopted by Irish families after the 1986 nuclear accident - -> irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/ … 94325.html


#353

theguardian.com/environment … 1-meltdown


#354

The cost of cleaning up the Fukushima disaster has now been put at $177 BILLION, and the figure has been doubling every three years. It is not inconceivable that the total cost will exceed $500 Billion. It does not include any harm to health or the ocean ecology so it’s entirely likely that the total economic cost could turn out to be far higher.

What exactly does $500 Billion actually mean in terms of electricity production?

A single kWhr of electricity has a wholesale cost of about $0.065. Since Japan constructed it’s nuclear power stations the nuclear industry has supplied 7.4-million-million kWhs of electricity (7’400’000’000’000 kWhrs), giving a total value of $480 Billion for all the electricity ever produced.

The cost of the Fukushima nuclear disaster is set to exceed the total value of all the electricity that the entire Nuclear Industry ever produced in Japan. Think about that for a minute.

This does not account for the cost of decommissioning the other nuclear power stations or for the long term storage of the spent nuclear fuel and associated waste.


#355

This can’t be good.
Radioactivity keeps killing the clean-up robots (really, really quickly).

extremetech.com/extreme/245324-cant-see-inside-fukushima-daiichi-robots-keep-dying

The situation is quite obviously far worse than anyone is letting on.
And yet, the media is quiet.


#356

More on dying robots:


#357

Ok, so you’ve had a tsunami, a nuclear meltdown, an evacuation, numerous gas explosions, and a devastated scene that’s too radioactive even for robots. You’re probably wondering “what else could go wrong” … right?

Answer: an unexploded World War II bomb discovered on the site! :open_mouth:

bbc.com/news/world-asia-40886169


#358

The dead robots is actually something I know a bit about.

Its something where technology driving towards smaller dimensions, & tighter integration on semiconductors works against you, rather than for you.

Modern semiconductors are really, really, unhappy when random bits gets flipped, & react accordingly. That’s exactly what happens when you expose them to radioactive environments. Even using systems that work in deep space; where you have similar concerns, doesn’t work very well.

In deep space, you’re in a vacuum, so even unprotected by an atmosphere, you don’t get so many of these particles, & the designers of the probes/satellites etc, expect them, & have plenty of experience of designing to protect critical systems from them. There are some fascinating youtube videos out there from inside highly radioactive environments, & you can actually see the degradation of the film, from all the particles bouncing around the environment.

To build a robot to operate deep inside one of these environments, you face a choice between a number of crappy options. Go simple & shield it with a crap load of lead, which will make it less capable; go light & build a bunch, & hope one of them makes it thru before dying; or go somewhere inbetween & try & develop one gradually that can get the job done.

I think the engineers have done what I would, & chosen the latter, & are going to evolve themselves to a working robot, with just enough shielding to get the job done.


#359

Paul O’Neill: no IT editorial about following report