Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches needed


For studio apartments it’s 37 m2, which is much larger that the poky 2.4 m2 proposed in Barcelona. … s_2018.pdf


Does an extra foot of height in an apartment add much cost? It can make a small ish apartment feel bigger and is probably better for air too


Probably add up to 5% to the costs of materials & labour as an extra course of blocks per floor would be needed plus all the other materials to build that extra 30cm of wall per floor. The walls are one of the cheaper parts of the construction.


Footage across social media last evening and this morning of balaclava clad private operators attacking and evicting squatters from a house on Frederick Street in Dublin. Numerous balaclava clad Gardai providing the unidentified thugs with a protective cordon. There are suggestions that the men who entered the premises are loyalists from the north but this is unconfirmed. Their vehicle was a northern reg van.

6 squatters/protesters were taken into custody and brought to store street Garda station. A large mob then walked to the station and entered it demanding their release …which appears to have acceded to …but is not 100% from the footage.

The optics are very very bad and look like something from famine times. There is a serious issue around housing in this city and a viable solution is required before this mushrooms and becomes something else. I don’t think most of you lot appreciate that there is a huge number of people under 40, many of whom are in jobs, including many so called professionals, who have nothing to lose on this issue. Nada. And they are naturally open to any form of solution at present.


Not on this story yet but from the above sounds very like previous evictions but with a bit more state organisation behind and more so like how occupy people down at central bank where removed. In that instance reports are that a large group of masked presumably men, bailed out of a van or vans, entered the camp and pulled everyone out of it. Once they had everyone off the site. The Garda suddenly appeared on scene, perfecting timing as all the former occupants where now in the right kind of jurisdiction for the Garda to start arresting etc. etc. Reports were some or all of these assailants where armed but it’s been a while so that detail I can’t remember. Probably historical posts to that affect on the forum. Clearly this wasn’t a Barbara Streisand concert and the story didn’t seem to much traction.

Something like a northern reg could very well be a useful misdirection playing on cultural confirmation bias to muddy the water but the tis purely speculation.

Did I read yesterday this occupation was a property of someone politically connected or have I got this event mixed up i.e. this is a spill over from somewhere else.


you are asserting that young professionals are involved in these illegal occupations?


All kinds of people squat which is irrelevant to the story but maybe not when it comes to fragile agenda’s and narratives.

Dedicated thread opened up here - … =4&t=67571


Newstalk Pat Kenny
A texter (wonder who? :angry: ) suggested that citizens lease land from the State at market rent and build their own housing.
Pat suggested that would be akin to rates, and said it was a no go, as there would be protests :confused:

However, it eliminates land/house speculation and land as a stored value for personal wealth accumulation, and provides housing, so win-win?
Introducing land rent, Australia’s excellent idea for making houses cheaper


Or the government could release more land to push prices down heavily


Colm McCarthy talks more sense in the Sindo

#875 … 48502.html


I’d say the government (sic) will be sh1tting themselves over this - they’ll find it very difficult to find anybody more incompetent than Eoghan Murphy to appoint to housing. If they want to continue to keep house prices up they may have to appoint a vested interest from outside the elected politicians - can I suggest Tom Parlon?




Glad to see local politics is not dead and buried.

#879 … 98496?s=20

Karl Deeter collecting examples of Politicians objecting to housing developments


Roughly 400k a house in Tipperary with solar panels and the works

‘They want us to drop our culture and throw it aside’ - Traveller families won’t move into €1.7m homes without stables and land … 94115.html

#881 … 34491.html

I read somewhere this one has an after tax income of 51k and obviously doesn’t have to worry about the opportunity cost of working.

The activists need another poster child. Peter Casey is quite photogenic :angry:


When all the benefits and the HAP payments are added in she gets a little over €50k from the taxpayer/government. Any gratitude?

On being ask what she expects in the budget … 98652.html

The homeless activists/media have gotten all they can out of her, she is of no use to them now.


Galway City Council confirms it gave an affordable house at a discounted price to one of its senior managers – who subsequently rented it out to tenants.
It also sold affordable houses at discount prices to two further staff members. … ate-428562


Domestic abuse victims are not being counted in official homelessness totals because there may be a “political issue” about the number tipping over 10,000, Minister for Children Katherine Zappone said.
(I don’t have a link)
That’s atop all the other fudging of the figures happening