Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches needed


#926

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Social Skyscraper in Kinnegad :joy:. Can’t think of any obstacles to your vision.


#927

#928

Here is a repeat of my post here from Late 2018 which was a repeat of my previous post from 2015

"It is now over three years since I called for “Emergency” interventions into home construction in Dublin. The grinding incompetence is beyond a joke now. :frowning:

thepropertypin.com/viewtopi … ck#p845338

Since then the (then) incipient emergency has moved along to Cork and Galway cities as well and will probably spread to Limerick by next year. :frowning: "


#929

Fckin incredible isn’t. Or not.

Guilty by design.


#931

Sean Barrett blames the housing crisis on low productivity in construction, abetted by endemic cost overruns in the Public Capital Programme. He proposes that

Each spending minister should shed 20pc to 25pc of prestige capital spending from his or her department in order to build houses.

He knows this is a non-runner. Name the last Minister who voluntarily abandoned a major spending project?
Capital spending was slashed during the austerity period - we always jettison investment before we cut current spending - but I think the only major project which was dropped when funds were available was BertieBowl. That was only because Michael McDowell took against it and Bertie still needed the PDs after the 2002 election.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/the-two-step-solution-to-our-housing-crisis-cut-costs-and-build-more-simple-as-that-40262997.html


#932

#933

Imagine if they instigated a housing-queue system based on citizenship nativism, call it native-stakeholderism, something like that, with a=n all-of-governmetn national push with about 100 NGO’s and a few unions thrown in calling for it, and regularly outraged at any lack of progress, 24/7 for 2 years. Kind of similar to using your birthday to dole out the experimental mRNA genetic soup, it give a clear production run schedule using existing data.

The difference being the outcome is unknown in the later, the outcome in the former is a mechanical computation.

These Cohorts would be classed as following:

#1 Irish-Vulnerable, (50,000 - 10 million)
#2 Norhtern-Irish-Vulnerable (10,000)
#3 British-Isle-Vulnerable (2.5 million)
#4 European-Vulnerable (200 million)
#5 Visa-Vulnerable (circa 6 billion)
#6 Random-Rest-of-World-Refuigee-Vulnerable (6/8 billion)
#7 Pirates-On-Banana-Boats-Vulnerable (unknown figure)

As silly as it is to make it mandatory to take a free gaff, no point in forcing anyone into a home since it’s goes against inalienable and constitutional rights and protections. It would however be far better to secure the stock upfront and keep the supply coming, to make provisioning and inspection a 24hr turn key operation for the prospective housee.

Since Ireland has a world class planning system, were provisioning occurred around 20 years ago in advance to keep supply up and stable, this is then not such an out there idea. If anything it’s rather pragmatic and conservative. Maybe a bit German.

You might think it’s a good idea, to target the Irish-Vulnerable cohort to be fully housed, we should settle for no less than 80% of the Irish-Vulnerable cohort, and until that time, we can not open up the country to housing anyone else, unless of course they can pay for it from their own pocket purchased from the existing private market stock.

In simple terms, the other cohorts will have ot wait their turn, so must stay away and restrict their movements inwards at unknown and random times. Until we have housed all those in the most vulnerable cohort, we can not even begin to think about the less Vulnerable cohorts.


#934

Planning watchdog warns of negative impacts of numerous developments in south Dublin on M50 and Luas line (thejournal.ie)

The regulator also criticised what it claims are plans by the council to rezone excessive amounts of land for housing.

The OPR said the population and housing supply targets being set by the council exceed the amount necessary to facilitate growth over the lifetime of the plan which will run up to 2028.

The regulator has predicted that, if unchanged, the plan would rezone lands for more than 6,800 homes above the 15,000 it estimated are needed.

The OPR regulator said the draft plan would potentially undermine national and regional policy objectives for compact growth.

You know things are bad in Ireland when even the Regulators are walking up to it


#935

Brown Envelopes 2.0


#936

Well Eoghan Murphy is going. He was too good for us really. He belongs on a higher stage. Some players you can just tell immediately from their first touch and ability that they belong in a higher league.


#937

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#938

Abandon ship! - Maybe he watched the Cliff High video on Shedding Woo or, he already knew what’s in store and it’s time to get out of dodge before the natives realise what is being done to them, i.e. before they mob comes looking for blood, if of course they can still stand, walk even run, he can run back to his globalist handlers for the next phase?

Or maybe he’s just sad.


#939

Which is worse for the West Brit element, Grandad Russell letting the side down by losing Gay Byrne’s money or Eoghan letting the side down by losing Fine Gael a seat ?

Fine Gael should select Pantibliss, he’s a “socially progressive” entrepreneur. They’ll love that.


#940

Don’t be giving, right wing conservative Fine Gael any ideas now :shushing_face:


#941

6,000 over 4 years? Well that will sort it…


#942

The planning board ruled the plan complied with national planning guidelines and it would have granted permission but had to turn it down because the local Strategic Development Zone (SDZ) plan had height limits.

So we are still refusing to start building up in Dublin city centre during a housing crisis


#943

Yes of course, as Frank McDonald and all right thinking people will tell you, anything above 3 stories will destroy Dublin’s wonderful and world famous architectural heritage, if this means people working in Dublin have to commute from places like Longford. Well, hard luck suckers


#944

Reminder: we don’t have a “housing crisis”. We have a “migration crisis” of half a Leaving Cert class (that we know of ie 35,000 people) each year

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2019/


#945

Your feelings on foreigners coming here are well known but a net 35k a year increase hardly amounts to an immigration crisis! Any country with Ireland’s population density needs that. The issue, as ever with Ireland, is how Dublin centric everything is.


#946

It wouldn’t be an immigration crisis if we had housing, healthcare and other services sufficient to the Country’s needs, that could absorb additional immigrants.

We don’t.