Health and Social Budget overruns - making the rest moot


#250

This article was written a little cryptically for RTE’s audience. Like something from the old game show 3-2-1.

rte.ie/news/business/2018/0404/952146-exchequer-tax-revenue/

So ahead of a probable election spending increases are on the table, instead of getting into surplus to pay down some of the Sovereign debt while the sun shines.

10% increase in PAYE tax take, suggests either 5-10% pay increases, or 10%, maybe more in employment and paying higher tax than 1 year ago. Or most probably a combination of both. If PAYE tax increases by 10% year on year this somewhat justifies 10% increases in housing costs, through the higher demand.


#251

Progressive nature of Irish tax system makes the tax take non- linear.

Small increases in income of those at the higher rate has a disportional effect on the tax take.


#252

My employer probably shelled out €10m in bonuses in the last month (not all to me sadly) up maybe 20% on last year, ~50% of this goes to the exchequer so that’s 1 of the 300 from just one employer without hiring a single extra person or raising anyone’s salary. Some would have bought stock with it but PRSI and USC is still due.


#253

Nice one. We could short circuit things madly, on the back of a fag box, and suppose govt revenues and accomodation prices are correlated with bonus payments, which in turn are a function of global stock indices. Which some might argue are firmly in bubble territory.


#254

HSE deficit set to reach close to €100m for first quarter

irishtimes.com/news/ireland … -1.3471712


#255

First line of article

“There are growing concerns within Government that spending in the health service is out of control.”

Patently obvious to anyone with half a brain for the last decade.


#256

An Apple A Day will sort this out. 8)


#257

HSE may record deficit of €200m-€300m for first half of the year

irishtimes.com/news/ireland … -1.3543455


#258

Finance have made it way harder to find the monthly figures. Finally got them here

per.gov.ie/en/exchequer-statements/

By end May-18
Health were +66m over their Net Voted Expenditure budget
Justice were +30m


#259

An on-call consultant paid more than €14k for one week’s work at Cork University Hospital, and a €25k monthly payment for radiology services at Bantry General Hospital
& more
irishexaminer.com/breakingn … 55973.html


#260

independent.ie/irish-news/p … 15280.html

Deja deja deja vu.


#261

Had a quick look at least figures

per.gov.ie/en/exchequer-statements/

By end Aug-18

Health were +307m (3.0%) over their Net Voted Expenditure budget

Health have spent +891m more than same time last year.

Current spending by all Departments is +130m over budget (+0.5%)


#262

finance.gov.ie/wp-content/u … ctober.pdf

By end Oct-18

Health were +366m (3.0%) over their Net Voted Expenditure current budget

Health have spent +957m more than same time last year.

Current spending by all Departments is +174m over budget (+0.5%)


#263

per.gov.ie/en/exchequer-statements/

By end Nov-18

Health were +699m (5.3%) over their Net Voted Expenditure current budget

Health have current expenditure of +1,346m more than same time last year (+10.7%)

Current spending by all Departments is +623m over budget (+1.6%)


#264

This is the most recent breakdown I can find of health expenditure, from 2016.

cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic … ounts2016/


#265

Here’s an excellent paper on Irish health expenditure. Jenny O’Connor in the Department of Public Expenditure deserves credit because the HSE couldn’t spare anyone of their 110,000 staff to look at what they’re spending :imp:
Some inconvenient truths here:
Health expenditure has been rising rapidly for five years, staff recruitment is at record levels, medical card numbers are declining, high cost drug costs and legal claim costs are exploding (thanks again, Vicky Phelan).

Did anyone see this in the media?
google.com/url?sa=t&source= … fI1UQTd3Tv


#266

plus ca change…


#267

When I see stories like this I’m amazed we still have any sort of service at all.

Either someone was negligent, and should bear the cost themselves, or there was a mistake that doesn’t amount to negligence, in which case there’s no liability.


#268

A T.D. says “it makes no sense” for the HSE to cut back on home care.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/home-help-freeze-makes-no-sense-38215771.html

It makes perfect sense for the HSE. The government is trying to control HSE spending so the HSE makes cuts to home care packages knowing that will have our public representatives will be howling for more funding.


#269