If you're the police, who'll police the police?


#1179

I found that part of the report very interesting. It gives an insight into the problems a judge faces in establishing the truth among the lies and conspiracy theories, particularly relevant to this Tribunal. Literature and history are excellent sources to illustrate this.

Nor is his prose “turgid and verbose”. It is written for the ordinary reader, not the lawyers, with a minimum of Latin. The double negatives reflect legal caution, as the report says:

If the media could do their job, we would have a summary by now, even an “executive summary” if someone is to be executed :mrgreen: The media were too busy “vindicating” assorted parties and damning others.


#1180

“The legal mind”. Give me strength.

Still, it’s a good report in spite of the pomposity.


#1181

I forgot to mention his overuse of the passive voice.

Thanks for reminding me.


#1182

You mean one was reminded that the overuse of the passive voice was forgotten. :smiley:


#1183

rte.ie/news/courts/2018/110 … osullivan/


#1184

The mad thing is that apparently she wasn’t even named!

And here is a page linking to the offending article, I think.

irishexaminer.com/briefings … 24086.html

but the link itself…

irishexaminer.com/ireland/s … 24048.html
“We can’t find what you’re looking for on IrishExaminer.com.”

I wonder if they’ll reinstate it. :smiley:

Here’s a quote from the article when it was up, via boards.ie

boards.ie/vbulletin/showpos … ostcount=1

I’m not going to copy/paste it. :smiley:


#1185

Just fn shocking and unbelievable to hear and see in his own words what they tried to do to McCabe.


#1186

thejournal.ie/martin-callin … 2-Nov2018/

What are the odds Callinan will have to fund his own defense?


#1187

Who is paying McCabe’s. I reckon a crowdfunder would be massively over subscribed.

I’d happily chuck in a few quid.


#1188

I’d be shocked if there wasn’t a queue of barristers and solicitors willing to do it on a no foal, no fee basis and after watching last nights program maybe even a few on a pro-bono basis


#1189

Personally I wouldn’t like to be guard in Co Roscommon this week.

irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/hundreds-protest-in-castlerea-over-men-s-alleged-assault-by-garda-1.3733223
As it was reported by the guards earlier in the week.
independent.ie/irish-news/garda-appeal-for-witnesses-to-public-order-incident-involving-garda-and-two-men-37623219.html

Long story short - Young guard is accused of assaulting two local very well known and respected men as they walked home at night just yards from their homes while he was investigating a reported burglary. Older man left with multiple fractures, younger man bruising and scrapes, guard injured ego. Older man lives less than 100 yards from Garda station and has done all his life, younger man 2 minutes walk further away. Neither local man known for ever assaulting anyone or any form of criminality at all. Supposedly 700 people on protest march today which is a massive turnout for a town of 2000+

Add this less than 20 miles away, today and last week irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/td-calls-for-calm-after-eight-security-guards-injured-in-eviction-house-attack-1.3733011 with the locals aiming a lot of anger the guards way.

I’m a long way away from this but I’ve had a number of calls from home about all this so I can only imagine how angry people are at home.


#1190

One to watch
rte.ie/news/2018/1218/1017775-policing/


#1191

That’s a strange article. The headline New intelligence unit to assess threats to State is barely mentioned as an aside within the article.

[emphasis theirs]


#1192

It looks like an unfortunate fudge where the compromise is worse than either of the options.

A committee doesn’t really take the kind of executive decisions that you need an intelligence agency to carry out.

Unlikely that a generalist civil servant in DoT would have the savvy or experience to make these kind of calls.


#1193

m.independent.ie/irish-news/tao … tvc9HUSu84


#1194

newstalk.com/consent.php?re … twvs8vfFvo

Wrong question, right one is can we trust our lawmakers


#1195

Senior garda suspended pending ‘corruption in public office’ inquiry

irishtimes.com/news/crime-a … -1.3747197


#1196

The omni-shambles continues

3,500 gardai investigated as youth crime scandal exposed
independent.ie/irish-news/3 … 23963.html


#1197

The really shocking and worrying thing about all of that and the rest previouslly is that no-one is shocked or suprised, not really.


#1198

More garda bashing on Liveline now