iTax - Broadcasting charge 'whether you have a TV or not'

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This actually sounds like a genuine episode of Nationwide.


The mind that dreamt that up is very sharp. Scamall sa Speir with Daithi and Grace Jones :slight_smile:
What’s ironic is that the sharp funny mind doesn’t have a show on RTE


RTE fees would impact viewers, Virgin claims - -> … 60452.html

Radio chief talks on tech firm threat - -> … 44780.html

Looks like all the existing players want to lock out competition and boost their revenue and have no qualms using legislation to achieve this.


You’re listening to Redacted FM, spinning the sounds you need to hear, all day, every day!


I might actually watch that one. :smiley: :blush:
The cats’ eyes show is probably a cut above most broadcast TV as well. :frowning:


don’t expect it to happen but it would be interesting if Virgin put the Irish channels into an add-on package that you had to pay (say) €5 extra a month to get. Would be the first time we were able to get a picture of the true demand for the local channels, as they’re bundled for “free” on every TV platform currently.


I’d say in Dublin, not a lot of interest. would think more viewers in the regions, gaa, etc


An Oireachtas report recommends a broadcasting charge which would apply to every household “consuming media, regardless of the technology used”.
The charge should be collected by Revenue. … 4-Nov2017/


At what point does a charge become a tax ?


AnPost collects the charge and there is a high evasion of the tv licence.
If Revenue collected, it would move close to zero evasion


It’s easy to evade a tax that’s collected by you going voluntarily to an office to pay it, but impossible to evade a tax that’s taken from your income first.


It does not matter how much extra tax revenue RTE pull in they will use the extra revenue as the new base to run a deficit which will require yet more revenue.
How does this 33% market share break down? That’s a rather large chunk not being served by RTE. … e-figures/


It would just be added onto the LPT.

I would support this **if and only if **it just became like normal tax revenue, and its expenditure was subject to Dáil approval like all other public monies. Motor tax is for example not hypothecated for expenditure on roads.

The TV license set-up is quite undemocratic. You are obliged to pay it (it **is **a tax) yet your elected representative can’t vote on its expenditure every year.


The TV license system has been the longest running joke in taxation costing a fortune to enforce and criminalising people who couldn’t afford it. The government promote the ‘Making Work Pay’ taxation system, but what it really is is making the wealthy richer and crushing the poor by moving away from a progressive taxation system.

Just pay for the State broadcaster from general taxation. Fairer, simpler, cheaper. It would be hard for the wealthy to argue against paying more for the State propaganda service when they get the most benefit from it.


Or don’t pay them at all.
The era of a state-sponsored TV station is long gone. Has been for a very long time now.
At this stage, RTE is just another vested interest.

Like Aer Lingus, it just needs to be off-loaded.


For all RTE’s faults, I don’t see a Denis O’Brien run media covering and uncovering a FG government scandal the way RTE has this one.


At present, you are not obliged to pay it. I don’t, but then I neither have a TV, nor watch TV broadcasts online.


True in a few very notable cases, but mostly everything from Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy, Morning Ireland, News editoral radio and TV has been very imbalanced in favour of FG/FF. The real running on the current shambles (Frances Fitzgerald resignation, Charlie Flanagan on the ropes) has been by the Sunday Business Post and the Irish Examiner. INM has been awful just running along afterwards trying to reframe the debate and mislead people away from the real issues.

There is a need for an independent State funded news service which is capable of investigative journalism. A bit of a paradox expecting it to be independent AND State funded, but an independent media is crucial to a functioning democracy, and the commercial media is not free.


RTE won’t disappear.
It will just become a slimmed down version of it’s current self with more appropriate salaries for it’s ‘‘stars’’.