iTax - Broadcasting charge 'whether you have a TV or not'


Minister examining revision of television licence fee … cence-fee/


Revenue could be tasked with collecting TV licence under new outsourcing plans … 19912.html

Minister for Communications, Denis Naughten is preparing a memo that will propose Revenue or an outsourced provider are the best options to tackle the issue, according to the Sunday Business Post.


iTax is back … from tomorrow’s Examiner:


Just before an election, Sir Humphrey Appleby would deem this ‘courageous’


The corporate welfare system needs to be reformed every now and then


Consultation period first to work out who should have to pay if no tv


Here’s an idea. Why not just do something similar to the insurance levy (or whatever the heck it is called), and just lump a few quid on anyone’s broadband connection bill? And then put that money towards telecoms infrastructure to help with coverage across the country?

I am already royally pissed that I have to pay the TV charge to prop up in Irish TV station that I never watch.


If they’re going to go the neoliberal route, why not privatize RTE, instead of privatizing the collection of the the “license fee”?

(I suspect this could potentially be another tax payer shake down and that the private collection will be a politically connected appointment, awarded through a quasi-equitable bidding process.)

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How many former RTE employees are there now still living, whose pensions are being funded by licence payers?


De Mirror lets rip …


Beneath you PS.

De mirror lets rip to all 30,000 of its readers. Who is Kevan Furbank and who the fuck cares what he/she thinks.

Just like Inis_Man’s comment above, a perfect example of impotent rage. Who cares how many rte employees are getting a pension. Even Inis_Man doesn’t care, he could look it up in the RTE annual reports but couldn’t be arsed.

750,000 people watch the Late Late Show every Friday. RTE1 has 19 of the top 20 radio shows by listenership. You don’t like RTE…guess what - you’re the minority. On top of that, either we pay for public service broadcasting or we leave it up to Denis O’Brien and his ilk to tell us what we should be outraged about. I prefer the soft middle class socialists in Montrose to the corrupt oligarchs but that’s just me.


Bit of a contradiction there, Gilroy. You’re saying RTE has all the most listened-to shows, yet it can’t stand on its own two feet as a commercial organisation? Maybe it’s because they pay Ryan Tubridy more than the BBC pays presenters with ten times the Late Late Show’s listenership.

If it’s a choice between RTE socialists and Denis O’Brien I choose neither. Oh wait, I can’t. Nobody’s making me give a red cent to DO’B, but I pay two television licenses to RTE. The supreme irony is I can’t even receive their broadcast TV, and their internet player won’t serve me any content because I run an ad blocker. Not that I’d be interested in receiving it anyway. You say I’m in the minority … and that means I should have to pay why, exactly?

I just glanced at the TV schedule and I could feel my brain wilting. “Public service” it is not. If you want to mandate public service broadcasting, I’ll pay a fiver a year for Nuacht and the weather forecast (without ads). Not that I’m interested in either. But I’m more interested than paying €160 to the kleptocrats in Montrose to watch ads interspersed with reruns of Holby City.


I appreciate that you can choose not to give money to the commercial stations but have no choice when it comes to RTE and that offends but I suspect that when something of interest occurs (referenda, storms, nurses strikes etc.) most people still want to know about it and will go to RTE for a less biased and less sensationalist view.

Whether we like it or not, the choice is already RTE or Denis O’Brien on the radio and increasingly on the television. The commercial stations are excellent at sharing presenters, news services (and the priority given to certain news) and I’m sure IT systems, HR etc. which can enable them to stay solvent. Look at Matt Cooper and Ivan Yates “competing” against each other at 5pm on the radio while co-presenting at 11pm on the TV.

I’m not saying that you couldn’t cut the license fee in half, get rid of the likes of 2fm, RTE2 which do not even attempt to provide anything different to commercial competitors. You could even tender out the John Creedon wanders about the country type of stuff but if you wilt looking at the RTE schedule, the TV3 schedule should make you want to throw in the towel altogether. If all you watched or listened to was Communicorp or Virgin, you’d swear nothing existed to the west of Dublin.

I think there is value in RTE and maybe 30% of the content they create and I think its out of control with presenters pretending to be contractors and that kind of thing. It doesn’t need celebrity presenters because people listen to it anyway. Bryan Dobson and Sharon Ni Bheolain were replaced with no change in viewership. RTE seems to have been fooled by the ‘talent’ and no doubt are paying over the odds for production too.


Nope, not me. I haven’t agreed with the Montrose socialists’ obvious bias in any referendum that I can remember. Storms? has way more in-depth information. For general weather forecasts, the BBC covers Ireland much better than RTE. Nurses’ strikes? Loads of other media available free.

No thanks. I’ve heard of the names, and I know one of them was a politician and has a thread on here about bankruptcy. Other than that I have no clue who they are, and no interest in hearing them.

Being less vomitous than the competition is not exactly an endorsement. I don’t listen to the competition either, and I certainly wouldn’t pay for them. My entire consumption of Irish news amounts to an occasional glance – perhaps once a week – at the online front page of the Irish Times.


Here’s one for you, a distant relative of mine was an RTE pensioner, don’t know if she’s still alive but in conversation one day about 10 years ago we learned that all RTE pensioners got their weekly copy of the RTE guide posted out to their home address…


Irish Times breaks down where the licence fee goes…

Of the total revenue collected, €189.1 million (86 per cent) was received by RTÉ. The remaining licence fee income, €31.9 million, was used to pay An Post collection costs and related charges, to provide funding for the BAI Sound & Vision Fund and to part-fund TG4 But where exactly does your €160 go?

RTÉ Television: 46 per cent (€73.46)
RTÉ Radio: 17.4 per cent (€27.80)
TG4: 5.1 per cent (€8.12)
Broadcasting Fund: 7 per cent (€11.88)
Online and other channels and services: 6.9 per cent (€16.19)
Governance: 1.3 per cent (€3.09)
Collection charges: 4.1 per cent (€9.59)
Orchestras: 5.7 per cent (€9.16)

The good Irish Times article goes into much more detail on what makes up each of the headings. Cancelling RTE2 and 2FM would probably knock the licence fee down by 20% or €32. Not to be sniffed at.


If RTE have lost the younger generation, a “device independent” fee will become a generational timebomb. Even the hip community resents paying a licence fee on a TV they don’t own for a broadcaster they don’t watch.

I think her Dad played sax in Moving Hearts. Does it get any hipper?

I’m almost looking forward to turning 70 when I can get this bundle of goodies:

Don’t ask how much money I make - I’ll still collect!


I thin it’ll be a very different world by then…the packages on offer now will be folklore, legends, myths, sagas even!


Lol you’ll be working till 70/75 it seems