Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise


#61

Landlord, Coles2, Mary Lou McDonald & Douglas Boyd Barrett all went to private schools - maybe there is some validity to the point about private schools :slight_smile:


#62

Mantissa also?


#63

is he Richard’s even posher brother??

Don’t forget Paul Murphy who gets off on bullying middle-aged women


#64

indeed

i was beginning to wonder if he was Boyd Barrett in disguise :nin


#65

:blush: Meant to say Richard.

All the same it is amazing how many of our left of center politicans are champagne socialists :slight_smile:

I wonder what I could have gotten, 10 years ago, on an ex-FF, Trinity graduate who went to a SCD private school running unopposed as the leader of SF.


#66

indeed, those of a more suspicious mind would find it duplicitous and more than a little condescending :angry:


#67

The “champagne socialist” jibe is depressing reflection of a society where people are not only expected to advocate in their own selfish best interests and those of the narrow social group they grew up around, but are criticised for doing otherwise.

Got forbid someone should form their own world view.


#68

except Paul Murphy, RBB and the rest advocate against a proper property tax - that’s hardly against the interests of the propertied middle classes. None of them advocate CGT on PPRs either

I’ve see Mary-Lou posters around the inner city with the slogan “one of our own” - that’s simply misleading


#69

Ah now, don’t get me started on Paul f’king Murphy.


#70

well said


#71

I think that they might be referring to her as a good republican.

€5k business class ticket on the average industrial wage :slight_smile:


#72

dont tell me there are sinn fein members flying business class :angry:


#73

is any of the sniping relevant to the LPT?
Piston anyone?


#74

Also because Dubliners have the highest disposable income too.
The national average disposable income is €20,334. Dublin has the highest average of €23,298.
Yes I know, ‘average’, see CSO data independent.ie/irish-news/n … 36317.html


#75

Everything is relative anyway, 18 months ago, I took a pay cut of about 25% to work close to home.
My disposable income remained about the same, due to the costs of commuting to Dublin each day.


#76

rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0308/945937-mortgages/
Fine Gael can’t say they weren’t ‘warned’ by the IMF/OECD/Economist etc etc.


#77

93.5% of ~32k residential properties were worth less than €300k in Galway in 2017. =
Underdeclaration of house value to Revenue appears normal!


#78

We made the mistake of submitting a revaluation for our house, based on the rise in the market. The Revenue immediately back dated it :neutral_face: Finally, after some rounds of phone calls, we were advised to wait for the revaluation in 2019.

The tax was introduced at a time when the market was in the shitter, selling prices still falling in many areas (May 2013). In all fairness it was quite hard to figure out the value, given that, as has been said here many times, a house is only worth what someone will pay for it.


#79

A recent article in the IT by John Fitzgerald is notable for how it illustrates the lack of joined up and consistent thinking in advice to government. While one could point out that one tax would be for financial stability and the other for revenue, it’s all just window dressing for an ideology that government intervention through taxation is the solution.

Current position - tax the equity

The current property tax is not perfect. … It would also be fairer if taxes were levied on the equity in a house rather than on total value . Neither is it fair that homes built since 2013 should be exempt while those who own homes built earlier pay in full.
Levy property tax on the equity…

Previous position - tax the mortgage

Mr FitzGerald said the ESRI had recommended to the Government on a number of occasions that, rather than providing mortgage interest relief, it should instead have been taxing mortgages.
State should have been taxing mortgages

Overall position - tax everything :tired_face:


#80

Weren’t the LPT rates were to be reviewed in 2019 based on today’s values, not those from a few years ago?