Well old Charlie’s resignation tonight won’t help the mood much on the back of the merrill resignation earlier in the week.
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BOSTON (MarketWatch) – Citigroup Inc. in a quarterly regulatory filing Monday said its so-called level 3 assets as of Sept. 30 were $134.84 billion. Level 3 assets are holdings that are so illiquid, or trade so infrequently, that they have no reliable price, so their valuations are based on management’s best guess. The investment bank said its total liabilities related to level 3 assets at quarter-end were $40.36 billion, according to the Form 10-Q. Citigroup said it often hedges its level 3 positions.
Citigroup reports $134.8 billion in ‘level 3’ assets
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We may be about to find out. From November 15, we will have a new tool for figuring out how much toxic waste is in investment banks’ balance sheets. The new accounting rule SFAS157 requires banks to divide their tradable assets into three “levels” according to how easy it is to get a market price for them. Level 1 assets have quoted prices in active markets. At the other extreme Level 3 assets have only unobservable inputs to measure value and are thus valued by reference to the banks’ own models.
Goldman Sachs has disclosed its Level 3 assets, two quarters before it would be compelled to do so in the period ending February 29, 2008. Their total was $72 billion, which at first sight looks reasonable because it is only 8% of total assets. However the problem becomes more serious when you realize that $72 billion is twice Goldman’s capital of $36 billion. In an extreme situation therefore, Goldman’s entire existence rests on the value of its Level 3 assets. >>>>>
The Bear’s Lair: Level 3 Decimation?
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The $8.4 billion write-down announced by Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc. (MER) last week was just the latest in a series of similar revelations by Bank of America Corp. (BAC), Citigroup Inc. (C), The Bear Stearns Cos. (BSC) and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH). And it underscores the key challenge investors continue to face: You don’t know what a company’s assets are really worth, so a company’s portfolio can explode into a mushroom cloud of red ink at any given time. >>>>
Could Goldman Sachs Explode? How to Dodge the Ongoing Mortgage Mess
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Meltdown can’t be far off now.
What’s that old saying “when america sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold”
Well america is about to catch a serious dose !.
tulip
November 14, 2007, 11:02am
#8
This new FASB rule will it not just mean that they’ll put the same price on the level 3 assets that they always had? If it doesn’t when will this new info be available to the public?
FASB 157 applies to the auditors, as far as I can see. They’ll have to value the investments themselves rather than just rely on the company’s say-so.
From here:
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Editor: Please describe for our readers the new framework for measuring fair value that was created with the issuance of FASB 157.
Larsen: FASB 157 provides disclosure requirements and calculation requirements for the use of fair value wherever fair value is used in GAAP. FASB 157 was not specifically prepared for private equity and in many cases touches other areas of accounting to a greater extent. In principle, it does not change anything from a private equity fair value point of view. Before FASB 157, private equity funds were required to report on a fair value basis and they are still required to report on this basis. Conceptually nothing has changed - only the means for deriving fair value.
FASB 157 has increased the wattage of the light bulb shining on the fair value issue in private equity. Preparers of financial statements realize that FASB 157 is focused on fair value so they need to focus more keenly on how it is derived. In the future once a fund adopts FASB 157, there will be additional disclosure as to how the fund came to its fair value assessment for each of its investments. FASB 157 goes through a hierarchy of inputs to get these values. You then have to disclose the level of input used so that the reader of the financial statement can then assess the overall quality of the fair value determination.
Editor: What is the preferred methodology?
Larsen: There are several criteria: (1) if the company is a public company, quoted prices in active markets; for non-public companies: (2) cost or the latest round of financing may be appropriate to measure fair value for some period of time; thereafter (3) comparable company transactions; (4) performance multiples; (5) other relevant information. The technique least likely to be used and with caution is discounted cash flow.
Editor: Could you give an example of how a fund might value an investment?
Larsen: You have to look at it from two perspectives. If a company is in a buyout portfolio (usually meaning that it has earnings and is growing), in order to value that company you should first ask if it is publicly traded. If it is, you take the market price of its shares times the number of shares to get fair value. If it is not publicly traded, you look for a comparable company that gives an indication of value. You look at the market multiple for the comparable company, and if that multiple makes sense for your company, you use it in order to get a value - always in the context of the overall market and economy.
A venture-backed company that does not have earnings should be viewed in the same way. Is the company still on plan? Is the cash burn what was expected? You look at the goals and expectations set by the investor. You then look at similar companies and factor in the value of the market for that type of company and its product(s). Taking all of that into account, you make a determination of fair value. Often this is evaluated in the context of what was paid or the value of the last round of financing.
One of the interesting things is the comparative test. If someone else has written down the value of similar tier 3 investments with an illiquid market, then the auditors appear to be obliged to write down investments to this value. Could it result in predatory write-downs? (i.e. company x writes down it’s small amount of RMBS for Georgia mortgages because it knows company y is holding a big stack of them?).
tulip
November 14, 2007, 2:17pm
#10
thanks yoganmahew, so from tomorrow onwards we could start seeing large write downs. I’d say there’s some nervous people in the banks Greenbear has mentioned above. I wouldn’t like to be the auditor/accountant in charge of that.
Rumour at the moment that “certain portions” of FASB 157 will be postponed, no link or confirmation yet…
While FASB decided yesterday to to pospone the implementation of some parts of FASB 157, only non-financial assets (business combinations, etc.) have been excluded from this implementation; thus financial assets including asset backed securities and other illiquid financial assets will now have to be valued - whenever possible - using market prices or proxies of them rather than using voodoo-finance models and credit ratings (or better misratings) that don’t make sense.
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