Mary Robinson’s Papers / "Presidential Library "


#46

So roughly how old are you anyway? Do you remember her election?


#47

Yep, there’s nothing like a succession of sarcastic comments to convince people of the merits of your arguments. :angry:


#48

Mary Robinson has applied for and is in the process of obtaining a €2m tax advantage. For this she is going to hand over a large number of boxes of old shite (periodicals, law books, cassettes, a lamp, diaries, random certificates). 99.99% of these items have no academic or monetary value. Furthermore the warehouse to store this crud is being purchased from her brother at what appear to be a considerable premium to the going rate for Ballina. The ongoing maintenance, staffing, insurance etc of this warehouse will presumably be a continuing drain on Mayo CC for years to come.

All of this is happening with the full knowledge of MR and she doesn’t care because she is a massive egotist (and she is getting €2m).


#49

If this was an FF/FG ex-President who engineered a tax break/stroke like this, there’s be a lot more sarcastic commentary on here + 1000.
But because Robbo is deemed by many to be a Leftie and a Liberal, and as she was from the Labour party, she’s getting a free ride from many.

Some are claiming she transformed Ireland into a modern society/economy- a fantastic achievement from an Office with no powers.
Some are saying she probably knows nothing about this and the tax break simply fell into her lap. But as this has been floating around for some time now, you’d think she’d have knocked it on its head at this stage.

There’s no changing of minds on something like this. If I smell something rotten, I like to call it as it is…no matter from which political stable it has sprung in this country. Others are blinded by their allegiances/causes.

And never the twain shall meet


#50

Who are the “many” who you think are giving her a free ride? I don’t see it. I just see people reacting to your attack on a factually accurate statement; “while she was President she was widely regarded as a good one”.

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that the tax break is anything less than distasteful money-grubbing. That Coles2 questioned whether she knew about it is probably misguided but he also acknowledged that it doesn’t look good.

Again I don’t see anyone taking issue with it being called out as rotten. They are taking issue with your characterisation of the significance of her election and presidency. But I guess it’s good to know that your stridency is driven by “calling it as it is” and that it is only others who are affected by blind allegiance. :angry:

I’d also be interested to know what age you are. Or, more directly, what age you were in 1990. I don’t think it’s an unreasonable question if it allows people to understand whether your opinion on the matter was formed through first hand experience or not. In the interests of disclosure, I am of an age that meant 1990 was the first opportunity I had to vote in a presidential election so that likely does inform my view of it.


#51

Primetime now. Doesn’t sound good.


#52

Thats putting it mildly!!!
No one from The Victoria Foundation, the Robinson family, Mayo Co Co, NUIG want to talk to Primetime.
Cross polonisation between The Victoria Foundation, Mayo Co Co and the Robinson family.
Mayo CoCo have issued a blank cheque to underwrite the cost of any repair works to the House, and it looks like it won’t be cheap.
1 County Councillor reckons €700k (or did the programme say €600k?) for a run down house in ballina is a tad ‘ambitious’


#53

In fairness her archive would be more interesting than that of 99% of Irish politicians.

More from her senator days I would say. She advanced causes which were pretty left-field at the time (women’s rights, right to divorce, children’s rights, gay rights) but are thankfully mainstream now.

But low housing costs aside, how will location in Ballina maximise access to anyone interested in the archive? And would any more than a handful of visitors wander in on a wet November Tuesday?


#54

rte.ie/news/2016/1128/835057-mary-robinson/

Plans for a Mary Robinson Presidential Library in Ballina, Co Mayo look to have stalled, after the former president announced that she would gift her archive to NUI Galway and have it stored there.

The Victoria House Foundation, which has been working to develop a centre at Ms Robinson’s childhood home in Ballina, says storage of the archive in Galway will mean there is no need to have archival facilities in Co Mayo.

In a statement this evening, the foundation said the former president would not avail of any tax credits that may be available to her when she donates her archive.

Instead of progressing with the plan to open a Presidential Library in Ballina, the statement talks of a “vision” to use Ms Robinson’s legacy “at a location” in the town.


#55

Mary Robinson, former United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, should donate it to the state to house Syrian asylum seekers.


#56

Is it possible the purchase of the brother’s house may have been merely “postponed” to give time for public outrage to simmer down?


#57

Don’t be so cynical PS!


#58

The diaspora are impressed by her campaign for tax justice at the tax payers expense, after a 7 year stint as president (cost 1.4 million+ to date in pensions) which she used as a stepping stone to the UN gig . . .


#59

thejournal.ie/mary-robinson- … 2-Feb2017/

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


#60

Is she angling for another 7 years?


#61

she can declare herself to be a candidate without needing neither Oireachtas nor Comhairle Condae votes.

I would hold my nose and campaign for her if Bertie runs


#62

I’d hold my nose and Campaign for Trump if Bertie runs.


#63

irishtimes.com/news/ireland … -1.3218436

Ctrl+f “brother”… guess what comes up


#64

I usually hate the “Why spend money on culture when kids are starving?” argument. But this is clearly the case with this one.

Mary Robinson has not lived in Mayo in 60 years.
Very few people outside Ireland have heard of her, and the market for monuments to Irish politicians is pretty small.
Very few tourists go to Ballina anyway, and very few extra will go to see this.

Mayo County Council has plenty of pressing needs, from shabby playgrounds to dangerous bends to social housing.

Ballina - and many other towns in the county - are pretty shabby with vacant premises and few signs of economic growth. It is pretty dubious in my view to be putting the cost of this project on the ratepayers of the hairdressers and shopkeepers paying heavy enough business rates already.


#65

This is no 10 by view count for “mary robinson” on youtube. 378 subscribers to her “Mary Robinson foundation” channel. internationally relegated to minor UN bureaucrat status.