Norway investigating post-vaccination deaths?

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#1

Norway… don’t know where this website ranks in terms of reputability, but posting

Even if true, they were older individuals, so may be unrelated, but if they’d died following a +ve COVID test, they would have been counted in those statistics, so…


#2

“If you are very frail, you should probably not be vaccinated,” Steinar Madsen at the Norwegian Medicines Agency said at a webinar on corona vaccine for journalists on Thursday.

Translation, "don’t bother, save it for someone who’ll live long enough to benefit from it.


#3

Its legit. The story is also in Aftenposten, the main national newspaper.

What interesting is that the FHI, the Norwegian Health Agency, has been the gold standard for transparency and clarity in the West. They are the only country that even got close to the exceptional standards of quality information in a timely fashion of the South Korean and Taiwanese CDC during the pandemic.


#4

the offical RHI report…

23 deaths have been reported in connection with vaccination. So far, 13 of these have been assessed. Common side effects may have contributed to a severe course in frail elderly people.

Published: 14.01.2021

All reports of deaths after vaccination are carefully considered.

  • The reports may indicate that common side effects from mRNA vaccines, such as fever and nausea, may have led to deaths in some frail patients, says Sigurd Hortemo, chief physician at the Norwegian Medicines Agency.

Read more: Use of mRNA vaccines in the elderly

The Norwegian Medicines Agency and the National Institute of Public Health jointly assess all reports of side effects. As a result, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health has changed the coronary vaccination guide with new advice on vaccinating the frail elderly.

As of 14 January, 23 reports of deaths have been reported to the adverse reaction register. The figures in the report itself include the thirteen reports that have been assessed by the Norwegian Medicines Agency and the National Institute of Public Health. The other messages are being processed.

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#5

I have hasd both doses of the pfizer/Bio tech vaccine without any side effects but many collegues report up to 24 hours of fever muscle pain and lassitude after the second dose. This seems more common in young people.
Probably indicates they are mounting a strong immune response.


#6

That seems to be the pattern. Two shot vaccines tend to cause a noticeable response in most people with a healthy immune system. Basically the same symptoms as a mild human corona-virus infection. Which is what most people under 55 have if they show any symptoms of a real infection.

The main problem based on the experience with the SARs I and MERS vaccines is just how strong the immune system response is and how quickly it rolls off. The track record is not great. One of the reasons we get dozens of human corona virus infections during our lifetimes is because the immune-system memory fades after a while. Only good for a few years in most people.

So most likely if they try to push the vaccine strategy it will have to be a yearly one like with the flu vaccine, formulated for the inevitable many new varieties every year. But unlike the flu vaccine it will have no measurable effect on mortality rates because unlike the flu SARs CoV 2 kills very few under 60 and these vaccines have only a very mild response at best in the over 60’s

If you are healthy and under 60 and no serious health issues then the vaccine should be OK. But this is purely an early stage experimental vaccine with no proper clinical trials, so completely unlike every other vaccination shot you have ever got. Which would have been trialed for many year before roll out. So always bear this in mind if anything out of the ordinary popups up in the sort or medium term. Unfortunately everyone who gets the vaccine is part of what is still actually the Phase I clinical trials of an experimental vaccine.


#7

If you’re healthy and under 60, case morbidity and mortality from the virus itself is low…


#8

It appears that the Pfizer vaccine is the most dangerous one and should be put aside.


#9

I know. But for people who are forced to take it one way or another one of the few brights sides. For anyone under 60 and with low PSI/PORT score if the choice was between a vaccine jab or a SARs CoV 2 jab the SARs 2 jab has actually the lower potential heath risks. Which is a true indication of the depth of the current hysteria.


#10

St Gerard’s School on the edge of Bray, Co Wicklow, which was at the centre of controversy over the vaccination of teachers, has been affected by a Covid-19 outbreak.

A number of teachers are understood to have tested positive for the virus in recent days, while three other staff have been identified as close contacts and have been asked to self-isolate.

Archived link: https://archive.is/ME6fg