PTSB/ESRI house prices for May


#1

This stuff used to be big news

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Ireland May House Prices: Statistical Summary (Table)

By Mark Evans
June 25 (Bloomberg) – Following is a summary of May Ireland
house prices from permanent tsb and ESRI in Dublin:
*T

                     May   April   March    Feb.    Jan.    Dec.    Nov.
                    2009    2009    2009    2009    2009    2008    2008

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-------------------------- YoY -------------------------
National -10.9% -10.7% -10.0% -9.7% -9.8% -9.1% -9.6%
Dublin -14.8% -14.3% -14.2% -13.3% -12.4% -11.7% -11.1%
Outside Dublin -10.5% -10.8% -9.9% -9.5% -9.9% -10.2% -10.5%
New Houses -11.5% -11.1% -10.5% -9.2% -9.0% -8.2% -7.7%
Existing Houses -10.4% -11.7% -11.0% -11.3% -10.8% -9.7% -8.6%
First Time Buyers -17.6% -17.4% -14.3% -15.2% -13.5% -14.0% -12.0%
Second Time Buyers -8.6% -9.5% -9.8% -9.2% -8.9% -7.8% -8.9%
Commuter Counties -17.6% -17.8% -17.9% -17.8% -16.7% -16.8% -13.5%
3 Bed Semi n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a -10.6% -9.4%

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                     May   April   March    Feb.    Jan.    Dec.    Nov.
                    2009    2009    2009    2009    2009    2008    2008

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-------------------------- MoM -------------------------
National -1.3% -1.9% -1.0% -0.8% -1.4% -0.9% -0.5%
Dublin -2.2% -1.1% -1.2% -2.1% -1.4% -2.1% -0.8%
Outside Dublin -0.4% -1.7% -1.1% -0.9% -0.6% -0.7% -0.1%
New Houses -2.1% -2.6% -1.9% -0.6% -1.3% -0.7% -0.1%
Existing Houses -0.1% -1.5% -0.4% -1.0% -1.3% -1.4% -1.2%
First Time Buyers -1.4% -4.1% -0.3% -2.8% -0.8% -2.6% -1.9%
Second Time Buyers -0.5% -0.8% -1.1% -0.7% -1.9% -0.4% -0.1%
Commuter Counties -0.6% -1.4% -0.6% -2.3% -0.6% -4.5% -2.4%
3 Bed Semi n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a -2.7% -2.6%
--------------------- Price in EUR ---------------------
National 245,295 248,640 253,546 255,999 258,006 261,573 264,026
Dublin 323,973 331,206 334,822 339,042 346,274 351,096 358,631
Outside Dublin 213,491 214,445 218,261 220,741 222,649 223,984 225,511
New Houses 244,586 249,785 256,501 261,483 263,000 266,466 268,416
Existing Houses 246,165 246,390 250,212 251,111 253,584 256,956 260,553
First Time Buyers 203,560 206,530 215,440 216,034 222,371 224,153 230,094

                     May   April   March    Feb.    Jan.    Dec.    Nov.
                    2009    2009    2009    2009    2009    2008    2008

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Second Time Buyers 281,689 283,200 285,468 288,743 290,759 296,302 297,562
Commuter Counties 252,811 254,281 257,956 259,425 265,550 267,265 280,003
3 Bed Semi n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 267,731 275,093

NOTE: The commuter counties are Louth, Meath, Kildare and Wicklow.
3 Bed Semi shows the prices for 3 bedroom, semi-detached houses.

Source: permanent tsb, ESRI[/code]


#2

Still no 3 bed info… Wonder how big their sample needs to be! :blush:


#3

tis embarrassing really, even the VIs have washed their hands of it.

maybe some month when noone is looking they’ll sneak in a 20% drop just to align the index with reality.


#4

I think PTSB/ESRI need the assistance of the 'Pin.

I know we’re stuck with asking prices but can anyone suggest some figures for ‘3 bed semi, year on year’?


#5

how are their drops so small? Asking prices are down 30-40% so surely the selling price is even lower?


#6

Christ! It’s a lagging index and is based on a 3 month moving average of dreamed up prices from Estate Agents…


#7

#8

But are they really down 30-40% on average? I have seen some drop by that amount by from my casual looks at the price drops posts there still seem to be lots in the 10 to 15% range.


#9

Well two areas I was looking at, Marino and Ashington off the Navan Road, were asking around the €500k last year and are now in the €350k region. I’ve seen pretty significant lumps taken off the asking in most areas I’m interested in.


#10

How can they still not have enough data for 3 bed semi’s?


#11

Here is the chart in a graph form:
https://www.statusireland.com/data/charts/Irish-House-Prices-Since-1996.jpg
available from statusireland.com/statistics/property-house-price-statistics-for-ireland/3/Irish-House-Prices-Since-1996.html

While many will disagree with the prices I think it is the trend that is most important. If you want to buy a place you’re going to know a fair price yourself, as long as the trend shows prices continuing to fall it is good for buyers.


#12

I think you should rename that chart “property” prices and it’s spelt “nationally” mate! :wink:


#13

Great graph. The fall in Dublin prices really accelerated over the last six months.