Rental Costs - Unreal!!


#882

thejournal.ie/ires-sandyford … 7-May2017/

Time to send the CV to Micro$oft


#883

No discussion on availability of credit is valid unless you take into account the free credit being availed of by those not keeping up their end of the deal


#884

So they were offering you 3.5x combined salary and you were shocked ?

I guess applying for a mortgage is not something I do everyday - who does? In any case, I think if I borrowed what they offered it wouldnt be long before me and my family would end up in financial trouble - deal with that assertion as you will.


#885

Irish Times sub headline: South Dublin is now more expensive than London

The small print:

irishtimes.com/life-and-styl … -1.3078387

So we’re comparing the average rent in SCD which is the most expensive part of Dublin with the average of all London rents? It’s obviously apples and pears but why would our paper of record do it?

Do we Irish have a curious need to be the most expensive kids on the block? It feels like 2006 again.


#886

#887

He’s consistent, I’ll give him that!


#888

So they were offering you 3.5x combined salary and you were shocked ?

I guess applying for a mortgage is not something I do everyday - who does? In any case, I think if I borrowed what they offered it wouldnt be long before me and my family would end up in financial trouble - deal with that assertion as you will.

on the basis of the information you supplied them that seems a stretch but obviously you have a better idea on your longer term financial situation than the banks do and wisely dont want to borrow more than you personally are comfortable with,

all they can work on is a snapshot at a point in time.

also was this approval in principal or letter of offer as a lot can change between the two

i personally think the 3.5x and 20% equity restrictions are about right


#889

Queue to rent a €1400pm 3 bed little house in Dublin, courtesy Joe Duffy’s Liveline.
Apparently around 100 people showed up


#890

It’s great that Mansard roofs have such a keen local following.

I’m a bit of a fan myself.


#891

Friend went to his EA to look at changing his apartment. EA told him, for the first time ever he has nothing available on his books to rent.


#892

When I want to move back it’s either no jobs or nowhere to live. Almighty pain in the arse.


#893

Tech workers avoiding Ireland as rental crisis bites

irishtimes.com/business/tec … -1.3181612


#894

A friend of mine works in Dublin in the moderately glamorous world of selling advertising space.

He says he is already losing staff to London. Housing costs are higher there of course, but so are wages, and the 20-somethings reckon it’s an easier place to save.


#895

What’s the bets that Ireland fares even worse than the UK on safety of rentals?

Here’s the independent.co.uk link but the site seems to be having problems, so here’s the Google cache.

I wonder could there be any possible connection to the fact the Tories voted against an amended housing bill last year that would force landlords to address safety issues.


#896

Some horror stories here

‘It’s soul-destroying’: personal crises from Dublin’s rental shortage

irishtimes.com/news/ireland … -1.3197280


#897

WOW!

how on earth is Dublin supposed to attract Brexit business from London?


#898

It isn’t just foreign workers who are leaving on account of this. I am tech and I emigrated last November because Dublin had got to be such a clustermess.

I don’t plan to come back this time.


#899

Sindo letters page


#900

I’ve mentioned this in relation to the tech sector quite a few times over the years - this matter was raised by senior staff in multinationals to government on numerous occassions from 2011 on. Perhaps it was because these staff were Irish that mininsters felt they could ignore them, perhaps it was also because these were given as friendly advice. It seems that the multinationals will need to threaten to pull out before this will get fixed (compare and contrast the attitude to changing planning regulation when it comes to Apple’s Athenry plant). Perhaps if Apple were based in Dublin it would be different (not that Cork is immune to accomodation problems but Dublin’s are an order of magnitude greater).

I work for and with a number of local and multinational software companies - let me share a few stories from the trenches -

  • One company asked it’s staff to let new employees couch surf while they found their feet in Dublin. They had to stop it because the time it took new employees to find decent accomodation in Dublin was just putting too much pressure on the staff members providing the couch. Left to fend for themselves staff members settled for crap accomodation more quickly.
  • Another company appointed a staff member to find accomodation for new arrivals. The US company said that the person should only acept accomodation that ‘they would happily live in themselves’. This person could not find any accomodation that met the criteria - the person told me that they had never realised how appalling accomodation was in Dublin, and that the price of it did not seem to be any reflection of the quality.
  • Another company now warns potential employees at the first interview that they should research the Dublin housing market before continuing with their application. In addition they should be prepared to arrive at least 4 weeks before starting employment so that they can find somewhere to live.

I could go on… The issue affects workers migrating to Dublin from Ireland as well as other countries - many IT students now do their postgrad degrees in regional Universities (because of cheaper accommodation costs) and have to move back to Dublin to get work.

There seems to be a view in government that this isn’t a big issue and that it will sort itself out - it won’t - I don’t see any solution that can work without legislative change and in this country that means years. The crazy thing is that office space is probably going to be cheap for the next few years (despite what the Commercial Property VIs say I have not seen companies looking for extra office space having any difficulty expanding) but expansion is going to be limited by the difficulty in recruiting staff because they can’t find anywhere to live. To be honest I think we have passed the point where a solution can arrive before the problem affects the economy - which is utterly depressing. The governments latest ‘Republic of Opportunity’ ads are a waste of money in this climate - the brand is already tainted.


#901

Jeez, what is it, house prices going up or down is a good or bad thing. Government has thrown the sink at the situation and now people complain.