Mr Quinn will never create anothet job! Fuck me that can’t be allowed to happen.
Ireland will survive without 65 year old entrepreneurs. There’s cute hoors waiting in the wings, let Sean be an example to them - never to soar too close to the sun.
I think the fact that they can chase Mr.Quinn for every penny until he turns 76 means they probably will recover more than if he went bankrupt in the UK.
I have no doubt than Sean is regarded as outside the establishment and there may well be a vendetta against him but he must accept he played a dangerous game and lost.
I wonder will one of the kids now set up the expected Q2 insurance firm?
“Q2 Insurance” will never happen, even the Irish regulator isn’t stupid enough to give a Quinn a licence to operate an insurance company.
All the assets are controlled by his children so we won’t be recovering anything unless we can get those transfers overturned.
Well, he’ll never serve on a Board of Management for a primary school now.
Well FF & SF were pissing & moaning last week that they had nothing on the order of business for the new days they are sitting.
I propose they dedicate their new Friday sittings to writing & passing new laws specifically to retrieve the Irish taxpayers money filched by parasites like Sean Quinn !
Alleged chatter in the insurance recruitment agency world Q2 scouting for suitably qualified individuals to come on board
Who would risk their reputation?
HouseBuyer:
Braighni:I wonder will one of the kids now set up the expected Q2 insurance firm?
“Q2 Insurance” will never happen, even the Irish regulator isn’t stupid enough to give a Quinn a licence to operate an insurance company.
Alleged chatter in the insurance recruitment agency world Q2 scouting for suitably qualified individuals to come on board
He, or any company connected to him, won’t be allowed by the Financial Regulator to write business in this country, especially considering the 2% levy on insurance policies that had to be levied because Quinn Insurance used their loss reserves to take their stake in Anglo.
dilloneustace.ie/download/1/ … reland.pdf
Principal Conditions (for writing insurance in Ireland)
The principal conditions applicable to an applicant for Irish head office authorisation are as follows:
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it must demonstrate that it shall be effectively run by persons of good repute with appropriate professional qualifications or experience.
HouseBuyer:
Braighni:I wonder will one of the kids now set up the expected Q2 insurance firm?
“Q2 Insurance” will never happen, even the Irish regulator isn’t stupid enough to give a Quinn a licence to operate an insurance company.
Alleged chatter in the insurance recruitment agency world Q2 scouting for suitably qualified individuals to come on board
Considering QuinnDirect never bothered to seek suitably qualified people for the insurance industry, I doubt Q2 would bother.

Braighni:I think the fact that they can chase Mr.Quinn for every penny until he turns 76 means they probably will recover more than if he went bankrupt in the UK.
All the assets are controlled by his children so we won’t be recovering anything unless we can get those transfers overturned.
It is very difficult to overturn transfers made 5-10 years ago (well before the CFD purchases).
Anglo is paying the political game. A bankrupt in the UK is petty much the same as a bankrupt in Ireland (all available assets are liquidated and used to pay down debt).
From Anglo’s perspective the main difference is that it costs €300-500k (Ignoring the cost to overturn the Northern Irish bankruptcy) to make somebody bankrupt in Ireland and unfortunately the taxpayer will be footing the bill as the value of his assets are only 50k.

HouseBuyer:
Braighni:I think the fact that they can chase Mr.Quinn for every penny until he turns 76 means they probably will recover more than if he went bankrupt in the UK.
All the assets are controlled by his children so we won’t be recovering anything unless we can get those transfers overturned.
It is very difficult to overturn transfers made 5-10 years ago (well before the CFD purchases).
Anglo is paying the political game. A bankrupt in the UK is petty much the same as a bankrupt in Ireland (all available assets are liquidated and used to pay down debt).
From Anglo’s perspective the main difference is that it costs €300-500k (Ignoring the cost to overturn the Northern Irish bankruptcy) to make somebody bankrupt in Ireland and unfortunately the taxpayer will be footing the bill as the value of his assets are only 50k.
Maybe not, but it may be possible to make those who he made transfers to responsible for any loans/debts they incurred on his behalf when they were adults.
Why is the line constantly being peddled that Quinn took a massive punt on Anglo and lost? I don’t believe it, there’s got to be more to it all than an incredibly rich businessman making a stupid decision in a moment of madness.

Why is the line constantly being peddled that Quinn took a massive punt on Anglo and lost? I don’t believe it, there’s got to be more to it all than an incredibly rich businessman making a stupid decision in a moment of madness.
Well there’s also the hotels, radiators, glass manufacturing, cement , all of which are cyclical industries struggling at the moment. The trophy properties in the UK and canny investments in sketchy countries. Then there’s the insurance companies with a long history of poor investment decisions.
All symptoms of the same disease

Why is the line constantly being peddled that Quinn took a massive punt on Anglo and lost? I don’t believe it, there’s got to be more to it all than an incredibly rich businessman making a stupid decision in a moment of madness.
My vague memory is that he has form in this regard, lost a packet on the dot.com bubble, but thereafter declared to have learned his lesson and hired professionals to manage/invest money for his insurance business
I used to admire him as a genuine entrepreneur who got caught out, but have largely lost faith in him with this hiding money and bankruptsy runarround. He has destroyed his reputation and good name as an honerable person to me.

My vague memory is that he has form in this regard, lost a packet on the dot.com bubble, but thereafter declared to have learned his lesson and hired professionals to manage/invest money for his insurance business
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I have a vague recollection of that, in fact I was just searching for it. Iirc brother and former GAA Presidente Peter Quinn was Chief Investment Officer and had to be replaced.
His brother is his equal in the fuckwit stakes.
finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews … nter.shtml
The Irish Independent also reports that businessman Peter Quinn has launched an outspoken attack on the country’s banks, universities and public sector, saying a heavy bias towards “corporate governance” is strangling risk-taking.
In a lengthy address to the Irish Exporters Association, Mr Quinn, the brother of billionaire businessman Sean Quinn, unleashed a volley of criticism aimed at almost every institution in the State.
Mr Quinn also tackled those who complained about ‘Rip-Off Ireland’ while themselves charging high fees.
The former GAA president Mr Quinn, considered to be the financial brains behind the Quinn Group, said that the banks, statutory agencies and European founders were anti-risk and for bureaucratic administrative models.
“I am a strong proponent of the production model, and an equally strong opponent of the administrative model which I believe is doing huge damage to our industrial potential. It has ruined many potentially good businesses,” he said.
The public sector operates entirely on an administrative model. So too are the universities and the business schools, most of the training organisations and most of the funding bodies including the banks and statutory agencies, according to Mr Quinn.
“There are some areas in today’s business world, where the excessively pervasive influence of so-called ‘good governance’ is constraining progressive companies with the potential to develop, including the potential to take risks and penetrate overseas markets,” he said.
Mr Quinn, who was the driving force behind the �200m Croke Park development while GAA president, said "bureaucratic regulations and requirements are being promoted by officials in places like the European Commission, the media, in which I have a few interests, by pressure groups and by politicians responding to those pressure groups.
“None of them has ever invested his or her own money in producing new products, in entering new markets, in creating new businesses or in taking business risks,” he said.
Echoing the views recently expressed by leading banker Sean FitzPatrick, Mr Quinn warned that “they and their rules and regulations are having hugely adverse impacts on economic development in Ireland and the rest of the developed world”.
Excessive bureaucracy is imposed on managers to such an extent that profitability and economic performance has to be impaired.
Mr Quinn said that operating in a cross border region of Fermanagh/South Cavan in his youth taught him a lot about cross-border trade.
�We knew which side to buy and which side to sell and how to get things from one side to the other,� he said. As the border ran through the Quinn fields and the fields of their neighbours �we got to know every gate, every ditch, every lane and where to leave things when we got to the other side,� he said.
Mr Quinn does not believe there is a widespread rip-off culture in the Irish economy �apart maybe from those who talk about rip-off Ireland, giving much wittier presentations than mine and charging many of thousands of euro for them, while I charge nothing,� he said.
Even before the onset of the global credit crunch, the warning signs about the Quinn Group were there for those who knew where to look. In 2001 the Quinn Group had to pump fresh capital into Quinn Insurance after the company took a €20m hit on its investment portfolio after gambling on hi-tech stocks during the turn-of-the-century internet bubble.
Quinn Group’s acquisition of plastics and radiator group Barlo in 2004 also set knowledgeable tongues wagging. Tony Mullins, then Barlo’s chief executive, and his management team, submitted a €70m bid for the company only to be blown out of the water by the Quinn Group, which offered €84m. The MBO team, unable to justify matching or topping the Quinn bid, took the money on offer and most of them left the company shortly afterwards.
Even at the time, with the construction sector booming as never before, there were many who felt that the Quinn Group had seriously overpaid for Barlo.
Quinn Group followed this up by paying an incredible £270m for the Belfry, the plush golf resort outside Birmingham, UK, in 2005. It then announced plans for a £200m redevelopment of the resort.
However, it didn’t seem to matter. Despite apparently overpaying for assets and pursuing a high-risk investment strategy at Quinn Insurance, the Quinn Group seemed to go from strength to strength, reporting pre-tax profits of €433m on a turnover of €1.6bn in 2006.

My vague memory is that he has form in this regard, lost a packet on the dot.com bubble
Still owes Anglo 80 million in relation to this having lost over 200 million in this little episode.

Why is the line constantly being peddled that Quinn took a massive punt on Anglo and lost? I don’t believe it, there’s got to be more to it all than an incredibly rich businessman making a stupid decision in a moment of madness.
Agreed. The insurance thing looks like a scam all along too. Just a ruse to get cash from policy income and divert it elsewhere.
BlameGame:
Agreed. The insurance thing looks like a scam all along too. Just a ruse to get cash from policy income and divert it elsewhere.
Quinn was our Warren Buffet, in much the same way that Liam Lawlor was our Lady Di…