South Africa kicking off


#1

Most popular Local newspaper. Warning: pigin English

Update: 25,000 troops being deployed. Reserves called up. But what will be the rules of engagement ?

South Africa only has 50,000 active and reserve. And this is just two cities. I assume reservists in those two areas will be reluctant


#2

I just hope the protests are mostly peaceful, its what George would have wanted


#3

CAUGHT ON VIDEO: Politician Telling People “Go Into Indian and White Neighborhoods; Kill Them and Burn their houses down” in South Africa


#4

Its a ANC guy. ANC hates Inidans. Unless its the Guptas. What kicked off in Durban and the townships looks like purely an ANC internal battle. Lots of planning went into it. Outside of KZN and Gauteng, Zuma territory, almost nothing happened.

Now this is how you deal with looters…


#5

#6

COMPLETE SOCIETAL COLLAPSE IN SOUTH AFRICA - RIOTERS BEING SHOT DEAD BY ARMED CITIZENS AFTER POLICE PULL-BACK; LOOTERS BEING WHIPPED IN THE STREETS


#7

Very disturbing detailed description of what happened in Durban.

So all the police stations in the Durban area were hit first by Zumas guys in MRAPs with AK47’s.Then large numbers of heavily armed guys went to key warehouses, factories and told the security guys they would be shot if they interfered. Factory security outnumbered and outgunned. Food distribution for the whole country was targeted. Conveys of vehicles stripping food warehouses for Zuma supporters before they were torched. Basic infrastructure like cell phone towers etc destroyed. This is not riots as usual, that is first stage of a planned civil war by Zuma, with Malema as the wing man.

As went Rhodesia so goes South Africa.

The move of everyone to Cape Provence from Transvaal, Orange Free State will accelerate. For those who cannot emigrate. Still no news of one of my best friends uncle and family in Durban. He is pre 1994 SADF so they should be OK.


#8

Some people I know in Durban have the good fortune to live between a Muslim community which has multiple levels of defence ending with heavily armed inhabitants, and an intact shopping centre with a security team that didn’t run away. The residents in the complex take shifts to watch the perimeter, especially the gate.


#9

A not so intact one…

https://twitter.com/glennndavid/status/1417719982939586560


#10

Hard to disagree, it looks like only the timeline is open to debate, would anyone bet against the ANC winning the next election. most people know that Zuma was totally corrupt, google tells me he has a net worth of $20million, not bad for a communist from very humble beginnings. Cyril Ramaphosa has an estimated net worth of $450 million, for some reason the western media never talk about this

The failure of South Africa should cause right thinking people in the West to start questioning the core beliefs that underpin their strange “religion” but of course it won’t


#11

What kept SA together so long was the fact that it was not a two tribe country like Rhodesia. There was no dominant tribe like the Shona. The real disaster of Zuma was that until his rise to power the Zulu, the larges tribe, tended to keep the ANC at arms length. Which is why Natal tended to be the least worst governed province outside Cape Province. Until Zuma cam along. Outside some big urban islands both the Transvaal and Orange Free State had started slipping away long ago due to the utter corruption and ineptitude of the ANC. Which is why pretty much all industry and business not physicality connects to the Jo’burg area has moved to Cape Province in the last 10 / 15 years.

The one interesting political change has been the rise of the black middle class DA vote in the ANC heartland. The ANC essential lost Johannesburg last time around. As the black poor voted EFF and the black middle class voted DA. Its that loss of voters that is driving so much of the current ANC power struggle.

The other thing is the catastrophic mismanagement the SA economy by the ANC. Because of ANC corruption South Africa missed the single biggest mining boom in history. If the ANC had even been able to keep economic growth rates at pre 1994 level’s the average South African would by now have an income at least double what they currently have. They would be at low end Eastern European income levels. Instead its basically greater Lagos region income levels with what is left of far better infrastructure. Which they inherited from the previous regime.

By the time this is over I expect SA to have dissolved to it pre Union configuration. With Cape Provence being fairly functional. Natal maybe. And all the rest going the full Zimbabwe. I fear Johannesburg will go the full Algeria before this is over.

For some reason I was thinking of some video I saw of Ian Smith as an old man in his 80’s tending his garden in a suburb of Salisbury. Just him and his gardener. Not needing any security or protection. As by this stage Mugabe had totally collapsed the economy and parts of the country were already in famine. Because most of his fellow countrymen by now had realized that the “cure” was far far worse than the “disease” ever was.


#12

This is the best drive around video I have seen so far for Durban

What was so striking to me was just how different it looked from LA after the riots in 1992. The pattern of damage was very different. There was actually more widespread looting in LA in '92 but very few retail outlets were torched and almost no industrial building were damaged. Even though some of the worst rioting in LA was surround by industrial areas.

This was very well organized by Zuma. He deserves the death penalty for what he did.

The level of damage in Durban is staggering. Large parts of the industrial infrastructure were targeted. What was also noticeable was the complete absence of police and army in Durban and that fact that armed neighborhood protection roadblock were everywhere. It was very different in LA. The place was flooded with police and army during and after the riots.

In fact the only time I have seen anything this is after natural disasters when the police are busy and the roadblocks are there to send a message to any outsiders who might think of doing a little opportunistic looting. A bunch of idiot meth heads were caught this way during the Big Basin fire last year.

Watching the video gave me a bad feeling. It reminded me a bit too much of the early days of the mass killings in and around Bulawayo in the early to mid 1980’s. When Muagabe first showed his true colors as a mass murderer.


#13

This is the next generation of the ANC, keep in mind that these are university students, the best educated and most intelligent the country has to offer. Wakanda is on the way, yeah real soon now LOL