Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?


#2113

European Car of the year nominations
No Tesla but the is an EV nominated
The Jaguar i Pace

thisismoney.co.uk/money/car … -2019.html


#2114

sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Drunk-driver-slept-while-Tesla-drove-Hwy-101-on-13435295.php

The CHP had to do a traffic break to stop the car. Luckily that part of 101 is pretty empty at 3.30 am

Given the history of automotive safety regulation in the US Autopilot will be eventually banned. I expect class action lawsuits for the deaths it has caused to follow in the decade afterwards. If there is still a company to pay out (very unlikely) probably a healthy 9 figure settlement.

Other news. The gossip out of LA is that Musk is still stoned out of his brain most of the time. But as the company is spending very serious amounts of money on “media management” fewer negative stories recently. Although that may change soon. In a big way.

Because it seems once a zef always a zef. Think a SA bogan and you would be on the right track.


#2115

Model 3 not eligible but it’s going to hit Europe in a big way in the 2nd half of 2019.


#2116

It will be a big success in Europe but they will also have some competition this time, the new Kona from Hyundai is an excellent EV, anyone buying a Model 3 should take a good look at it, not as good looking as the Model 3 but it might win on price


#2117

The one with the decent engine and range will be about 39k, I’d imagine. The equivalent performance petrol turbo is 32k.

I’d guess you’d be saving about 10c/km plus 600/year on motor tax.

So the breakeven point for my high use case (30k km/year) would be less than 2 years. It’d have completely paid for itself in fuel savings after about 10 years, which is about how long I’d keep a new car.

I’d almost get one if I had any faith in the range figures (EPA highway range is 360km at 78kph average, but I’d guess it’ll be much worse at higher speeds). I have to be able to do 300km at ~80mph (Irish motorway speeds) in a day without recharging, and for that I don’t think the Kona would come close.

Any of the Model 3s except the SR* models would though…


#2118

Used Teslas are starting to appear on the Irish market.

donedeal.ie/cars/Tesla/

50k for a Tesla Model S 85, 2014 with 100k on the clock.

How much was that new?


#2119

Would you buy a used car from this man? Let alone a new one.

cbsnews.com/news/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-the-2018-60-minutes-interview/

The interview is just a big a train-wreck as the rumors kicking around LA just after shooting implied.

Like all good con men Musk has complete and total contempt for everyone who falls for his con. But it seems he is planning to go out in a blaze of glory, just before the Feds arrived with the handcuffs…

theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/25/elon-musk-move-mars-chance-of-death


#2120

I watched the 15 minute interview. It wasn’t that bad. I though he seems like a normal person under a bit of stress.

The main parts were a series of close up reaction shots as the friendly and mild mannered journalist lady flips it and starts asking him a series of tough questions.


#2121

Some people just don’t get electric vehicles. :laughing:


Edit: original removed!


#2122

Check it out! Elon Musk, back in 1999.
youtu.be/oJkiRZ-bAlo?t=596


#2123

A conman that created PayPal, SpaceX, Tesla and now The Boring Company.
He might be a bit ‘out there’ but I guess that’s why he does what he does.


#2124

Demon Underneath
John DeLorean and the Invention of the Future
theoutline.com/post/6776/john-delorean-rise-and-fall-big-money-the-fbi-celebrities-and-cocaine


#2125

futurism.com/the-byte/combustion-engine-cars-peaked-2018


#2126

I think that is more to do with the fact that several major manufacturers have produced EV models that are viable alternatives to ICE vehicles, sufficient range and features are the main selling points, plus the fear that ICE vehicles could be punitively taxed in the not too distant future as well as banned from some cities.

Meaning their depreciation will be much higher.


#2127

Tesla shares drop on disappointing quarterly performance
bbc.com/news/business-46739805


#2128

Sandy Munro was back on Autoline talking Tesla, not much new information and he does ramble on

But basically he thinks Tesla will make big money producing cars in China because they won’t have the same problems again, he seems to think they have learned their lessons on the Model 3

Also after the Model 3 teardown two of his engineers bought Model 3s


#2129

$5bn investment according to Musk. Bought the site for $140m.

Going to produce “affordable versions of 3/Y for greater China. All Model S/X & higher cost versions of Model 3/Y will still be built in US for WW market, incl China.” On the other hand the S and X will be less affordable from next Monday and the smallest battery option will no longer be an option.

It’ll be interesting to see the design changes he makes to the Model 3 to simplify and lower costs.
Also interesting to see if they make their way out of China back to the US.

I don’t expect them to make a Model Y for 3+ years.


#2130

The beginning of the end?

Tesla to lay off thousands of employees due to ‘very difficult’ road ahead
“Our products are too expensive for most people,” Elon Musk said.
thejournal.ie/tesla-staff-c … 6-Jan2019/


#2131

Don’t think so, he did the same at SpaceX, its just cost cutting


#2132

Cost cutting that Musk told his employees, just seven months ago, would never happen again. When laying off 9% of the work force in June, he wrote to employees: “I also want to emphasize that we are making this hard decision now so that we never have to do this again.” That didn’t last very long.