The International Trade (War) Thread


#41

:laughing:


#42

That wasn’t a joke, by the way, just an allusion.
I thought I’d better say, in case anyone thinks I’m utterly heartless, rather than just mostly heartless. :wink:


#43

I’m not trying to offset the happiness of the average Chinese against the misery of the average American.

I simply don’t think America has a wealth problem. It has a wealth distribution problem.

Look at GDP per capita adjusted for PPP. They’re 12th.

data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD

USA: $57,638.2
China: $15,529.1

Look at who is above USA. If you remove all the oil and city states you’re left with…Ireland. Which is pretty much a city state.

Lots of prosperous, happy countries in the 40k-50k region.

What level of GDP per capita would the US require to rob Trump of his core? There is no answer, because more GDP per capita isn’t the answer to the USA’s problems.

So, maybe trade barriers are the solution, as long as the US is happier being poorer in the aggregate in order to fill the order books of some steel plants.


#44

Are the trade deals with Canada responsible for this? Have any trade deals or tariffs been pointed out as what is causing the problem? The reaction to Trudeau saying that Canada would retaliate to US tariffs with tariffs of their own was pretty ridiculous.


#45

More statements of the obvious in language that even a Trump supporter could understand. Probably.

Tariffs Won’t Make America Great Again
pragcap.com/tariffs-wont-ma … ica-great/


#46

Read the article in its entirety. It’s worth it. theepochtimes.com/why-china … 94509.html


#47

It looks like the Yanks are taking the China/US trade war to the next level by arresting the CFO of Huawei in Canada and seeking her extradition to the US. This comes on the back of a couple of Telco’s backing out of using them as a vendor for their 5G kit in Britain, Australia and NZ.


#48

This looks like the key take away, less Trade War more Cold War.

You have to go back to stories like ithe below in May of this year, to get a better view on the long game and to what is really going on. The infiltration by communist China deep into the US and US military infrastructure and personnel seems to be what is at play here, nor is it by accident.

Basically even as a consumer, you have to treat anything electronic manufactured in China especially by Chinese companies as spyware if it has a camera, mic and can connect to the net. I would include Toys in that.


#49

There was an incident discovered earlier in the year where a lot of US Internet traffic from one of their Telco’s was being routed through China Telecom and then back. It appears they have become quite brazen of late. I’ll see if I can find the link.


#50

#51

Australia and NZ have banned Huawei equipment from 5G telecoms due to security risk
and a new law in China requires any domestic firm to assist the government when asked


#52

This is the rumour doing the rounds in China regarding what is going on with Huawei CFO.


#53

news.yahoo.com/us-general-googl … 44501.html


#54

Japan follows US not far behind.

I saw it noted Nokia share price has gained as an affect of the news of competitors difficulties, not sure how true that is but might be something in it with the 5G race. - marketwatch.com/investing/stock/NOK


#55

telegraph.co.uk/business/20 … pens-asia/

reuters.com/article/us-chin … SKCN1OU01C

scmp.com/economy/china-econ … acts-first


#56

cnbc.com/2019/01/02/china-r … index.html


#57

the cold war intensifies