The Quinn Collapse


#1731

More mafia than bandits, I think. A friend who consulted for Encirc (the buyers of Quinn Glass) showed me photos he snapped of intimidating billboards beside the plant entrance. His name has also already come up on Facebook pages of locals, so anyone with even the remotest connection is watched.


#1732

independent.ie/business/iris … 13859.html


#1733

Sean Quinn deplores intimidation tactics, bullets in post, general negativity, etc. etc. …

Sounds a bit like the Good Friday Agreement to me. Nobody’s allowed to claim they won or admit they lost, or especially that violence and the threat of violence had been a successful tactic… but everyone knew it!


#1734

independent.ie/business/iris … 52458.html


#1735

Presumably in the unlikely event Quinn ever regained control of any part of his former empire, nobody in their right mind would ever do business with him again.


#1736

From the SBP.

Charming.


#1737

irishtimes.com/news/ireland/ … -1.2653822


#1738

I find the whole Quinn debacle fascinating, but from a psychological perspective.

He comes across as a man who stubbornly refused to accept that he lost.

Having fallen from the mountain top, he acts like he’s automatically entitled to stay there and demands a cable car ride back up.

It’s probably not helping that everyone in Cavan supports him (t’was those jackeens who caused it all), as they reinforce his own bubble.

But unfortunately, the good citizens of Cavan don’t control the company he founded (and lost).
And I’d say the new owners really don’t have the time or patience to entertain him any more.

By the way, has *anyone *in this entire bust come out with their hands up and said ‘I fucked up !’ ?
Think I remember Austin Hughes doing it.


#1739

He’s like an evil Jackie Healy-Rae.


#1740

No I don’t believe comical ever fessed up. One did, ex-AIB non-exec. Trying to remember his name.

At least Sean can focus on pig farming.


#1741

Jim O’Leary - londonspeakerbureau.com/speakers/jim_oleary

Attended a investment thing where he made a very frank presentation about the shortcomings of non-executive directors in AIB.


#1742

By no means would “everyone in Cavan” support Quinn in the same way that not everyone in Dublin supported the Anglo insiders.

The area he is from, and where his plants are located, is right on the Cavan/Fermanagh border with operations mostly on the Fermanagh side. So we are talking about border people here, they are a clan all to themselves. People along a narrow strip of the border from Donegal to Louth have a history of smuggling and lawlessness and this is just another indicator. Try repossessing a business along the Armagh/Monaghan border or giving evidence against one of these people in court and see how smoothly that would go.

You have got to understand the history here of the ROI/NI border, think localised mini-Mafia with Republican sympathies (when it suits).


#1743

when the troubles flare up again, I wonder where its going to start?


#1744

High Court judge rejects Sean Quinn trust application - -> irishtimes.com/business/fina … -1.3005404


#1745

And we’re back…they kids are going for the ‘doe eyed, simple little child’ defence. It didn’t work for their mother but it’s all they’ve got

Sean Quinn’s €2.3bn in loans gambled with children’s future, court told
Counsel for five siblings says they signed documents without legal or financial advice and with no knowledge of the effects of those documents.
irishtimes.com/news/crime-a … -1.3822989


#1746

From the IT article

Pity Peter Kelly isnt the judge. They were all adults when they signed them.

Paper of record and all that shit. Article didn’t match the indo.

Morons then.

independent.ie/irish-news/c … 09470.html


#1747

Very Irish that 9 years on from my OP that this is still ongoing?


#1748

IT article quoted above

but…


#1749

One or two of those kids appeared in TV interviews back in the day. They were as hardnosed as they come. Not buying this “we were forced to sign” line. Also, what about Sean Jr … wasn’t he supposed to be in jail for contempt, or did that all blow over?


#1750

Legal battle between Quinn family and Anglo Irish Bank settled