The Venezuela Thread


#121

PetroVietnam denies halting Venezuela project --> upstreamonline.com/live/article1349020.ece

Petronas ‘exiting Petrocarabobo’ - -> upstreamonline.com/live/article1336878.ece

Venezuela Oil Output Declines in December as Funds Slow to Arrive - -> bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-0 … rrive.html


#122

Venezuelan students flock to Ireland and cash in on currency controls - -> irishcentral.com/news/Venezu … trols.html


#123

Venezuela’s Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout - -> eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/v … -escalates


#124

What in the world: A ‘line crossed’ in Venezuela - -> bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-26279644


#125

Reuters: Venezuela protesters, troops clash, death toll at six

Caracas Chronicles: The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night – and the International Media Is Asleep At the Switch


#126

Maybe, but Maduro is also threatening to expel CNN (hardly the most radical of news orgs) for its reporting: reuters.com/article/2014/02/ … QZ20140221


#127

When I see what is going on in Ukraine and Venezuela, I think of Egypt, Libya and Syria. Not to forget Iraq and Afghanistan.
Remember that Chavez was already overthrown once before; remember Salvador Allende, too, and just a few years ago, the coup in Honduras.
Regime change without American troops on the ground.
I wonder am I the only one to feel this way?


#128

Well they need to justify their $600bn+ budget now, don’t they ?
What’s the point in spending all that money and missing out on the power !


#129

The Americans really only add fuel to an already burning issue, they are never the instigators of the events, they do try to take advantage of the situation for their own political ends.


#130

And who or what would you have held responsible for the constant “inherent problems” in Venezuela during the generations preceding Chavez?? Or are you going to completely ignore the structural nature of Venezuelan (read Latin American) society in forming your analysis?

The current ‘shambles’ seems to be already constructing itself along the same societal fault line that has existed since the creation of Venezuela (and before)…and when viewed through that lens surely the Chavez regime, regardless of what you actually think of it, and in common with other left leaning governments in the region is/was quite simply a reaction against what went before? And in that sense the true “inherent problems” as you term it ie causation in the true sense, surely lie in the massive inequality within the society generally and in particular the manner in which the rich have raped the poor since the year dot? Unless of course you believe that attempts to address that issue (however unsuccessful you may feel they have been) are somehow an attack of the natural order of things?

I would suggest that if efforts were made to address that particular issue in some meaningful way then popular movements such as that which Chavez led would not seem so appealing to the mass of people within Venezuela and elsewhere…


#131

Im not really here to defend Chavez. I simply take issue with some of the criticisms that have been levelled. Basically, from what I have gleaned through the media I don’t think it was all bad…and would agree with your statement above.

Everything is a product of something else. Chavez and his movement was no different. That’s really all I have been trying to say…

And while Brazil may be in better shape at present, lets not forget that there have been millions on the streets of its cities over the past year expressing their discontent with the manner in which that society is structured…nonetheless you may be proven right…but the jury will probably remain out until Brazil’s current boom (to include speculative bubble of Irish proportions) comes to an end…maybe post-world cup?


#132

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#134

bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26621350


#135

Venezuela expropriates households with more than 20 years leased - google translate] -> libremercado.com/2014-04-03/ … 276514910/


#136

Another airline pulls out

It’s not a good day when the italians say you’re economically unsustainable!


#137

Not Venezuala but their socialist ally Bolivia.

independent.co.uk/news/world … 16682.html


#138

While I understand the spin, there is another perspective on this one.

In India, a recent similar development was introduced to allow street kid vendors register themselves as businesses, thereby allowing them open bank accounts and actually save money…as opposed to having to defend it on the street or have it taken from them by thieves, extortionists and competitors. In many instances they would have sought to spend it as quickly as they earned it as to retain large sums of money whilst living on the street is pointless in reality. The idea is that over time, with savings, they can aspire to improve their lot etc. It may also encourage them to retain a focus on education as obviously a capability to read and write would prove of benefit in their dealings with banks, building a business etc.

Of course, you’d have to be sceptical as to whether it will play out as envisaged…however, it is based on an interpretation of reality that most of us westerners tend to be incapable of perceiving…


#139

It sounds like it’s merely legalising the status quo. What’s the administration doing on improving education access?
If the kid is getting taxed what will they get in return?


#140

As far as I know, only about 4% of Indians actually pay any tax so I doubt there is any reality to these kids doing so on their meagre earnings. In many parts of India, neither teachers nor doctors turn up for work in public schools or hospitals, preferring to supplement their state incomes elsewhere. The existence of a character like the guy featured in the following article is all that many, maybe most, Indian children can hope for in terms of gaining an education. Some great pictures included in the link for anyone interested…

huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/0 … 33019.html

In terms of Morales in Bolivia, Im sure his approach has been influenced by his own days as a child labourer.

Its depressing and as you say , seems only to cement the status quo…however, in terms of improving the lot of the individuals concerned, maybe it could work…maybe not…