The worst value house in Ireland?


#3642

WTF are the vendors on? That’s crazy pricing.


#3643

Oh come now! It’s roight besoide the Dort, in the hort of Dorkey!


#3644

And it’s got an Aga, don’t forget. An AGA!

Nice long garden, though; I wonder is the price partially justified by the possibility of a mews or something. No mention in the ad, tho.


#3645

14 Hampstead Avenue, Glasnevin, Dublin 9
myhome.ie/residential/brochu … -9/3507282
3 Bed End of Terrace House 115 m² / 1238 ft², BER E1
€695,000, €561/sq ft :angry:

I’m not familiar with the area, it this house really likely to fetch anything like that??


#3646

For me an Aga adds negative value to a house. Must be a bitch to get rid of.


#3647

Well, it’s official, the boom is back and boomier than ever. They somehow managed to sell 6 The Pierre for full ask - shocked to say the very least! €884/sqft to live in Dun Laoghaire. Not Ballsbridge. Dun Laoghaire.

15/01/2016 - €875,000.00 - 6 THE PIERRE APTS, VICTORIA TERRACE, DUN LAOGHAIRE
propertypriceregister.ie/we … enDocument

Meanwhile the selling agent has now listed the penthouse, which is just as big and with a better orientation, for €675,000. Doesn’t have the period features or ceiling height, but A3 rated and has far more windows/light.
myhome.ie/residential/brochu … in/3475006
17 The Pierre, Victoria Terrace, Dun Laoghaire, County Dublin
€675,000 - 2 Bed Apartment 90 m² / 969 ft² For Sale


#3648

The electric ones (the most common modern type) use on average 250kWh per week, so about 50 quid a week. For a not-very-good cooker. Never understood the appeal, but they seem to be popular in a certain type of house.


#3649

22 Abbeyfield, Killester, Dublin 5
sherryfitz.ie/residential/for-sale/47246
Asking 550k, 86 sqm approx (925 sq ft)
€594/sq ft :angry:

Compare with, for example:
5 Abbeyfield, Killester, Dublin 5
daft.ie/dublin/bungalows-for … n-1182880/
590k, 60 Sq. Metres (1,722 Sq. Feet)
€342/sq ft :smiley:


#3650

25 Kilbarrack Road, Raheny (well, Kilbarrack really)
€450,000 - 2 Bed Semi-Detached House 53 m² / 570 ft², BER D2
myhome.ie/residential/brochu … -5/3505596

€789/sq ft :angry:

Compare with this one in much posher Sandymount, closer to city (though not a semi)…

4 Willowfield, Sandymount, Dublin 4
daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sa … n-1195094/
€450,000 Townhouse | 2 Beds | 1 Bath, BER C2
66 Sq. Metres (710 Sq. Feet)

€633/sq ft 8DD


#3651

myhome.ie/residential/brochu … -8/3547599

Ok it’s technically portobello, but while that area is great for a bijoux redbrick house in a nice part of the city centre, an old apartment right by the canal (i.e. the worst part of portobello) isn’t worth €280k for a one bed IMO.

€649/sq ft

At say €1,200 per month rent, it’s a 5% rental yield is I suppose isn’t too bad. But still, it’s a mad price IMO


#3652

They don’t even bother including any photos of the inside on the listing.


#3653

price dropped to 550k, -8%


#3654

Thought I’d check in on this place. Dropped from its glorious high of 575k to 350k and finally sale agreed
collapso.net/Sale-Property/s … id=3316989


#3655

Wonder what it sold for - not exactly cheap for a 0.13 acre site anyway, and god help whoever buys it if they’re planning on living in it. :neutral_face:
Might suit a new commercial premises like a doctors surgery or something where they could build at the end of the site and have plenty of off-street parking spaces up front.


#3656

€300k for a 2-bed, one-storey terrace in Rathmines. No parking, electric heaters, no visible garden, no room to extend at all.

Seriously visible damp in bedrooms too.

If planning law didn’t exist, wouldn’t everyone just knock and rebuild these?


#3657

looks like one of those Halting Site cabins


#3658

Rebuild uncomfortably and pointlessly tiny houses? I’ve always been of the opinion that houses such as this shouldn’t exist, period. Gullistan Cottages occupies around 2 acres of land for 62 houses. The houses provide ridiculously proportioned accommodation, no amenities such as parking or outdoor space and are inferior in pretty much every way to an apartment (other than having no service charges). It’d be one thing if they were at LEAST two-storey, if not three, which is common enough in the city, but single storey is just a joke.

The ideal would be to demolish the whole block, build 6+ storey apartment blocks and give the owners of the houses 1000sqft apartments with balconies back in lieu of their mouldy 500sqft gardenless boxes. House them in an already completed scheme during construction. It would cost the developer about 150/sqft to build the apartments for them, but they’d not have paid for the site and the huge amount of apartments they would build in excess of those they have to give to the residents would be sold at €600/sqft+ and would therefore fund the whole thing and make a profit. From the public’s perspective, Dublin’s housing stock increases creating more homes, whether they’re rented out or sold isn’t really important. Everyone wins.

Same goes for other areas in close proximity to the city such as Ringsend and North Lotts.


#3659

ironically that sign in the photo looks like a planning permission notice?


#3660

There’s a whiff of National Socialist ideology about this. A master race in bricks n’ mortar. :smiley:

Take a streetview walk around Haarlem in Holland (with it’s bockety, bockety (but well maintained) houses. Houses with near vertical stairs which confound every rule in the health & safety / disabled access manual. Then fly down to Rotterdam and stroll around there. I think there’s a place for the inefficient and the efficient. It makes for a more attractive palette.

There’s a danger that by doing as you suggest, you’ll end up with a city looking something like all those staged houses we see on here: attractive, in a skin deep sense but devoid of personality. Like the large open hall/landing in Cluain Na Greine, you need seemingly pointless and wasted space … to give a sense of space.


#3661

Maybe it’s just me, but when I see those houses I don’t see personality - I see misery! 500sqft-ish is just too small for a 3 bed dwelling. They provide an extremely poor standard of living, or at least that particular house does anyway - riddled with mould, no central heating, etc. If it was feasible (and it probably is) for the houses to be traded for apartments double the size, I can’t see that as being a bad thing for anyone really. ‘Personality’/‘Character’ can be overrated - to me space, light, ceiling heights, etc. trump period features any day. I live in modern apartment in Dublin City that is devoid of any sort of ‘character’ in the traditional sense, but it’s triple aspect, lateral, 13ft ceilings, floor-to-ceiling glass throughout. It has the same amount of bedrooms as that house, but it’s 6 times the size (just short of 3,000sqft). It’s technically horrendously wasteful in that you could fit enough apartments in its place to accommodate a dozen people, but at least there are dozens of people living on the floors below it so it’s a hell of a lot less wasteful than the likes of these houses that don’t offer anything that that makes them more attractive than an apartment. At least in the likes of Haarlem you’ll see that houses have gardens - even if it’s only 20ft, that’s something that an apartment is unlikely to offer and therefore gives them a potential advantage over apartment living depending on what someone’s preference is. In the case of these cottages, they’re literally built back-to-back and I still can’t see what they offer that an apartment doesn’t. We have a bad habit in Ireland of keeping things for the sake of it. When things like apartment developments are sold, they’re pretty much destined to be there forever even if it would make a huge amount of sense to get rid of them, once multiple owners are in the equation it becomes near impossible. Even where owners in low-density developments were offered multiples of the value of their properties at the height of the boom, no developer to my mind was ever successful.

It’s depressing because you end up with developments like this forever once built:
goo.gl/maps/Na56U7hEirQ2
allsopireland.ie/auction/lot/24555 (Note BER G)
8 ice-box apartments hogging 0.6 acres, with most of it being massive communal lawns that are likely never/rarely used. Funnily, next door, 8 detached houses, each 2,100sqft ish in size, with their own private gardens that are probably used far more regularly, also occupy 0.6 acres. It’s completely pointless having a site like this within seconds of the N11 QBC that could accommodate multiples of the 8 apartments it currently holds. But, alas, it’ll be there till the end of time just for the sake of not ‘wasting’ apartments that already exist by demolishing them for higher density/quality.