Unemployment rises to 14.9%


#585

These numbers will all change and quite considerably when the CSO incorporates Census 2016 results next year.


#586

They don’t survey employers for these numbers. For many reasons most importantly you don’t catch self employed.

I’ll give you a clue: quarterly national **household **survey.


#587

Interesting stuff


#588

Indeed.

Surprised Spain is still up at 19%. Heard someone say they don’t have mass emigration in recessions because many can only speak Spanish and unless they go to South America they can struggle…


#589

August 2016 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in August 2016 was 8.3% or 181,600, a monthly drop of -0.0% or -1,700.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 8.1%
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ugust2016/
[Note: The QNHS Q2 2016 updated the above series]

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in August 2016 was 299,200, down -1,800 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Dec 2008 when it was 297,000.
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ugust2016/

There were 61,393 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in August 2016 which represents 19.4% of the total Live Register (was 67,488 in August 2015 or 18.8%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
July 2016 was 60,012 (July 2015 was 67,246)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 16.3%
[299,200 (August 16)+ 60,012 (July 16)/ 2,202,700 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2016]


#590

September 2016 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in September 2016 was 7.9% or 172,900, a monthly drop of -0.3% or -7,300.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 8.1%
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in September 2016 was 290,600, down -7,700 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 282,200.
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

There were 59,628 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in September 2016 which represents 20.8% of the total Live Register (was 65,675 in September 2015 or 19.7%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
August 2016 was 58,860 (August 2015 was 65,616)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 15.9%
[290,600 (September 16)+ 58,860 (August 16)/ 2,202,700 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2016]


#591

October 2016 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in October 2016 was 7.7% or 168,800, a monthly drop of -0.2% or -4,400.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 8.1%
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … tober2016/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in October 2016 was 288,000, down -3,100 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 282,200.
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … tober2016/

There were 59,436 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in October 2016 which represents 21.4% of the total Live Register (was 65,184 in October 2015 or 20.3%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
September 2016 was 65,276 (September 2015 was 74,274)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 16.0%
[288,000 (October 16)+ 65,276 (September 16)/ 2,202,700 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2016]


#592

But then the Portugese are famous for emigrating and it’s only really Brazil and Portugal where they’re language is spoken.


#593

I read somewhere its because in Portugal films arent dubbed whereas in the Spanish world they are.

It hilarious to keep hearing Antonio bandarus dubbing are the Hollywood blockbusters, when does he find the time to do his own movies?


#594

QNHS Q3 2016 stats are out
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … rter32016/

Additional info per Table 7…


#595

It’s a pretty good performance and the government haven’t done badly either. Thank you TheJackal :slight_smile:

Looking at the recovery in construction employment, I think we can say that further incentives are not required and the hope of them will likely dampen activity.


#596

Those numbers look iffy Jackal.

Employment up 0.5m since the trough?


#597

November 2016 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in November 2016 was 7.3% or 160,700, a monthly drop of -0.2% or -3,400.
This is the lowest rate since Sep 2008 when it was also 7.3%
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in November 2016 was 285,600, down -2,800 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 282,200.
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

There were 59,685 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in November 2016 which represents 21.8% of the total Live Register (was 65,678 in October 2015 or 20.7%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
October 2016 was 70,878 (October 2015 was 80,576)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 16.1%
[285,600 (November 16)+ 70,878 (October 16)/ 2,218,200 in Labour Force per QNHS Q3 2016]


#598

I know somebody continuing to receive a payment through an activation programme which was meant to expire after 2 years and they were renewed. Without renewal of their payment on the activation program they’d now be officially unemployed. The scheme has very clear rules which are being fudged.
I’m of the opinion the figures are being massaged still although I acknowledge the economy is more buoyant(sustainable or not??).


#599

The broad figure (unemployment and activation) that Jackal quoted is down ~4% this year from 20%


#600

Good spot. Typo. Should be 1,825K not 1,525K

Means employment up 215,500 from trough or 11.8%


#601

The community employment scheme economy:
tullamoretribune.ie/articles/news/55826

you can’t be having people actually working toward getting real jobs when they were “our” source of cheap labour.


#602

A friend manages a local factory. He’s had great results hiring people who were on these “FAS” schemes.
Great workers. Hiring someone via jobsbridge was less successful.

Lately, the local scheme wouldn’t send any more people to him because “then they would have no one left”.

On a side note, GAA insurance no longer covers these people to work at GAA grounds by default.
Now each club must prepare a risk assessment, method statement, & Safe System for Work.


#603

I was on one of these schemes back in the 90s, they were really handy. Get dole and allowances and work another job too!

The scheme itself was a doddle, I think for the last six months I’d onlyt turn up to sign a sheet once a fortnight!


#604

December 2016 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in December 2016 was 7.2% or 157,700, a monthly drop of -0.1% or -2,800.
This is the lowest rate since Dec 2008 when it was 7.0%
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in December 2016 was 282,400, down -3,300 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Nov 2008 when it was 282,200.
cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica … ember2016/

There were 59,940 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in December 2016 which represents 21.7% of the total Live Register (was 65,678 in December 2015 or 20.4%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
November 2016 was 71,829 (November 2015 was 81,298)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 16.0%
[282,400 (December 16)+ 71,829 (November 16)/ 2,218,200 in Labour Force per QNHS Q3 2016]