Water bills in 2013 even if meters aren't ready

[BoyRacer]

Water bills in 2013 even if meters aren’t ready - Patricia McDonagh -> independent.ie/national-news … 12609.html

Water charges are on the way in two years’ time, whether meters are installed in every house in the country or not.
The Government yesterday admitted it will take three years to install water meters across the country and the plan won’t start until next year. But the IMF-EU deal says water charges have to come in by 2013.
Coalition sources said the plan is to have the meters installed in time, but flat-rate charges would come if the process was not finished.

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[2Pack]

Most people are better off with a meter than with pick a number billing. The ACTUAL plan, in 2013, is to recover 100% of the costs of providing water from water rates. In a county with crap mains and high losses water will cost more than in one with good mains. The lowest losses are in Dublin as the rehabilitation effort was more comprehensive there than elsewhere.

Therefore they are considering regional water authorities modelled on the 4 HSE regions but not overlapping precisely.

[spqr64]

Jaysus lads we’ll need another Quango to sort this out if it’s based on HSE regions.

[2Pack]

And there will be a septic tank tax as well. Full cost recovery also applies to shite !!

[yoganmahew]

And there will be a septic tank tax as well. Full cost recovery also applies to shite !!

There could be a charge on the outflow as well. They have to cover the cost of processing all that waste.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Germany

Average urban domestic water and sewer bill

€32/month

That’s the direction we are heading.

There will absolutely. That’s what schools and businesses pay - one price for treated water, one price for sewage per cubic metre. Sewage is calculated on the water that comes in. There have been reports recently that new methods are being used to catch businesses that put rainwater harvesting systems in (to calculate their sewage outflow).

[boomshackala]

off grid anyone?

[pollydolly]

Lets not forget the proposed new internet tax:

siliconrepublic.com/comms/it … ce-the-tv/

This is going to be great for the “smart economy”

Coupled with VAT that already exists on books, it looks like our government is out to tax learning out of existence. Well done, lads.

[Ireland_is_different]

Water bills in 2013 even if meters aren’t ready - Patricia McDonagh -> independent.ie/national-news … 12609.html

Water charges are on the way in two years’ time, whether meters are installed in every house in the country or not.
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Surely people in Roscommon should be hit hard and quite rightly so
irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0116/1224262455159.html

According to Phil Hogan TD, Fine Gael’s environment spokesman, the latest water shortage crisis was “entirely predictable given the shambolic state of the country’s water network . . . especially when 43 per cent of the supply was already leaking into the ground” – a level of leakage that’s abnormally high by EU standards.

In Kilkenny, his home county, nearly 57 per cent of all water treated for human consumption is lost through leaks in the distribution system or otherwise unaccounted for – the second highest level in the State; the winner in this category was Roscommon, at 58.6 per cent, according to an official report published last November.

The Local Government Management Services Board Service Indicator Report for 2008 also found very high levels of “unaccounted-for water” in South Tipperary (55.4 per cent), Cork city (52.9 per cent) and Galway city and county (49 per cent each). By contrast, South Dublin recorded the lowest level of loss, at less than 20 per cent.

According to Dublin City Council, the levels of leakage in the city have been reduced from 43 per cent in the late 1990s to 28 per cent today, thanks to a Government-funded water conservation programme. This enabled the council to install a telemetry system to monitor flows, see when and where the numbers changed, and dispatch “leakage detection teams”.

OF THE €5.4 BILLION invested in water services since 1997, some €3.6 billion was spent on new sewage treatment plants – to ensure Ireland complies with EU directives aimed at protecting the water quality of rivers and lakes. Yet compliance with the directive on the quality of drinking water still falls short, especially in group water schemes.

[yoganmahew]

Surely people in Roscommon should be hit hard and quite rightly so
irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0116/1224262455159.html

According to Phil Hogan TD, Fine Gael’s environment spokesman, the latest water shortage crisis was “entirely predictable given the shambolic state of the country’s water network . . . especially when 43 per cent of the supply was already leaking into the ground” – a level of leakage that’s abnormally high by EU standards.

In Kilkenny, his home county, nearly 57 per cent of all water treated for human consumption is lost through leaks in the distribution system or otherwise unaccounted for – the second highest level in the State; the winner in this category was Roscommon, at 58.6 per cent, according to an official report published last November.

The Local Government Management Services Board Service Indicator Report for 2008 also found very high levels of “unaccounted-for water” in South Tipperary (55.4 per cent), Cork city (52.9 per cent) and Galway city and county (49 per cent each). By contrast, South Dublin recorded the lowest level of loss, at less than 20 per cent.

According to Dublin City Council, the levels of leakage in the city have been reduced from 43 per cent in the late 1990s to 28 per cent today, thanks to a Government-funded water conservation programme. This enabled the council to install a telemetry system to monitor flows, see when and where the numbers changed, and dispatch “leakage detection teams”.

OF THE €5.4 BILLION invested in water services since 1997, some €3.6 billion was spent on new sewage treatment plants – to ensure Ireland complies with EU directives aimed at protecting the water quality of rivers and lakes. Yet compliance with the directive on the quality of drinking water still falls short, especially in group water schemes.

Part of the problem is that the council have no idea where large parts of the pipe network are. Offaly CoCo, for instance, haven’t a clue what connections there are around Tullamore. Some are leaking pipes to now abandoned (long abandoned) houses. Some are to cattle feeders. In the old days (before the 1990s ), the council didn’t have a division to connect houses to the main, so the householder did it themselves. Since then, council staff haven’t bothered to find out who is on the mains…