Figures out today show 4,300 new house completions in July and 32,000 in the first 7 months of 2008. Where are they coming from? Based on registrations late last year, I expected the monthly total to be down to 2,000 by now. I put a 500 euros bet on with Paddy Power in April that the final total for 2008 would be under 50,000. Looking a bit dodgy now.
Anecdotal most builders that I know that are still working are scheduled to wrap up in October, and the anecdotal reports we are getting of the number of people signing on at the moment imply completions are taking a substantial fall. I will be very surprised if we see over 50,000 completions this year.
I got “30,001 - 40,000” completions at 5/2, but didn’t risk anywhere near as much
I also got 7/4 on ‘How much will the average house price change for 2008? - Over 9% Decline’, and I’m kicking myself for not betting the house (so to speak) on that one
I wouldn’t worry as completions will be collapsing for the remainder of the year. January completions were something like 7000 in January, 4300 in August, you only need it average circa 4000 for Sept-Dec and I’d imagine Oct, Nov, Dec will be very poor.
There will be no mass migration [apart from the foreign workers returning home] as workers that went down to Australia last fall are already starting to return home to join the dole queues here and no bank is going to lend to these guys to build one-off houses.
Just totted up the previous ten year totals and it produces the staggering figure of 656,521
Thats 660,000 houses built in just ten years for a population of just four million people,I can only see two possible outcomes from this:
1)A complete collapse of the banking system that financed these properties leading to them being sold off at a fraction of their original value, or even in the worst case scenarios, their ultimate demolition.
2)Mass inward migration from mainly non EU countries to fill the empty stock.
Considering the banksters look to be emerging from this crisis with even more power and influence over the government than they had before it all blew up, which one do you think is most likely to happen?
You seem to be implying loads of immigrants from… where? Nigeria? Turkey? ?? The Eastern Europeans are beginning to head home or for greener pastures, many Irish are making plans to go anywhere that speaks the only language they know - why in God’s name would anybody be making plans to head HERE? Unless the Government are going to offer full citizen rights and fianancial support to non-EU immigrants? That’s a bit Daily Mail, no?
His idea is that the government will bail out the banks/builders by (somehow) encouraging immigrants from other countries to come to Ireland and live in the empties. Just when you think you’ve heard everything.