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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:14 pm 
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British quickly running into a dead end full of stinky poo, better known as Brexit.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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There was a Labour MP interviewed on Sky News this evening who was still trotting out the "EU needs us to buy their cars" line. He thinks May got a lousy deal and the UK just needs to march back over to Brussels and threaten to leave without a deal if they don't what they want.
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Jeffrey Donaldson DUP on the Pat Kenny show this morning was still using the 'car buying' line


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Priti Patel says the threat of starvation in Ireland should be used as leverage to go back to Brussels.

Do millions have to starve in Britain for them to finally understand how millions starved in Ireland under direct London rule?

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Priti Patel says the threat of starvation in Ireland should be used as leverage to go back to Brussels.

Do millions have to starve in Britain for them to finally understand how millions starved in Ireland under direct London rule?

Even for a Tory politician, I didn't think a statement could be possibly true. I had to Google it to make sure.

In the real world though, Ireland is the 2nd most food secure country in the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Priti Patel says the threat of starvation in Ireland should be used as leverage to go back to Brussels.

Do millions have to starve in Britain for them to finally understand how millions starved in Ireland under direct London rule?

Even for a Tory politician, I didn't think a statement could be possibly true. I had to Google it to make sure.

It's gormless for sure, but it is the same uninterrupted Westminster sovereignty that induced starvation in Ireland that prosecutes Brexit now. Phil Hogan's reply cuts to the heart of it.
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EU commissioner for agriculture Phil Hogan has criticised a Tory MP’s threat to use possible post-Brexit food shortages in Ireland as leverage to secure a better deal, saying it would lead to “the starvation of the British people”.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... -1.3723610

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:11 pm 
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catbear wrote:
HouseBuyer wrote:
catbear wrote:
Priti Patel says the threat of starvation in Ireland should be used as leverage to go back to Brussels.

Do millions have to starve in Britain for them to finally understand how millions starved in Ireland under direct London rule?

Even for a Tory politician, I didn't think a statement could be possibly true. I had to Google it to make sure.

It's gormless for sure, but it is the same uninterrupted Westminster sovereignty that induced starvation in Ireland that prosecutes Brexit now. Phil Hogan's reply cuts to the heart of it.
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EU commissioner for agriculture Phil Hogan has criticised a Tory MP’s threat to use possible post-Brexit food shortages in Ireland as leverage to secure a better deal, saying it would lead to “the starvation of the British people”.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... -1.3723610

If all trade was stopped with brexit its the brits that would starve. But hey, thats their call. We will both freeze though. maybe we can have our own Norway plus plus plus slap dash


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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catbear wrote:
Priti Patel says the threat of starvation in Ireland should be used as leverage to go back to Brussels.

Do millions have to starve in Britain for them to finally understand how millions starved in Ireland under direct London rule?

Even for a Tory politician, I didn't think a statement could be possibly true. I had to Google it to make sure.

In the real world though, Ireland is the 2nd most food secure country in the world.

I too didn't believe that was the substance of it, but here it is - I looked for for a source that I though wouldn't be a mouthpiece for some view or other, initially picking https://truckerworld.uk/2018/12/priti-p ... -backstop/, but settling on MSN (somebody has to read it sometime):
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/p ... ar-BBQDd8z
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“This paper appears to show the government were well aware Ireland will face significant issues in a no-deal scenario,” Priti Patel, who was International Development Secretary until last year, told the Times.

“Why hasn’t this point been pressed home during the negotiations? There is still time to go back to Brussels and get a better deal.”

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Will Brexit lead to the pulling apart of countries within the European Union?
27 minutes of interesting debate on what’s next for Europe with speakers from Warsaw and Brussels.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswk10


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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I too didn't believe that was the substance of it, but here it is - I looked for for a source that I though wouldn't be a mouthpiece for some view or other, initially picking https://truckerworld.uk/2018/12/priti-p ... -backstop/, but settling on MSN (somebody has to read it sometime):
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/p ... ar-BBQDd8z
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“This paper appears to show the government were well aware Ireland will face significant issues in a no-deal scenario,” Priti Patel, who was International Development Secretary until last year, told the Times.

“Why hasn’t this point been pressed home during the negotiations? There is still time to go back to Brussels and get a better deal.”


The optics that I get from this is that there is a possible danger to food security in Ireland.
The Irish government will have no objection to letting Irish people and small businesses suffer because we do live in a time here in Ireland Inc where the lines in government management has been to DO AS YOUR TOLD

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