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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:48 pm 
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McWilliams wants to move Dublin Port -
shame about the details


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/lett ... -1.3390873

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Sir,

– David McWilliams (“Dublin Port is a waste of space. Move it”, Opinion, February 10th) says we should “move the port and make Dublin one of the great cities”. If only it were that easy.

Dublin Port is where it is for a good reason. The east coast is shallow and sandy and the Liffey, augmented by the Great South Wall and the North Bull Wall, provides relatively deep water. To get equivalently deep water elsewhere on the east coast would require massive breakwaters (think of the size of Dún Laoghaire’s piers and multiply by at least five) to build a huge new harbour on pristine and precious coastline.

Your columnist says “transport depots do not need to be by the sea”. That is why we are already developing the 44 hectare Dublin Inland Port 14km inland to accommodate the empty container depots and haulier yards we will move from Dublin Port.

David McWilliams speaks of “massive oil drums”. He is referring to large tanks containing close to 400,000 tonnes of petroleum products through which flows 4.3 million tonnes of product a year. I believe it would be near impossible to get planning permission and other necessary consents for such a move.

He says “Dublin Port only employs 140 people”. In fact there are more than 3,000 people working in Dublin Port.

“An international state-of-the-art port” that serves the Dublin-Belfast corridor is an “absolute must”, he writes. We have that already in Dublin Port.

Apparently we should do what they have done in, for example, Copenhagen and Barcelona. The equivalent in Dublin to what these cities have done is to build further into Dublin Bay, something we will not do.

To build a new port somewhere else would take 20 years. References to a “crippling housing shortage” are irrelevant in this timescale. The problems cited by David McWilliams of urban sprawl can be dealt with independently of Dublin Port and in a much shorter timescale.

Furthermore, in the time it would take to build a new port, the volumes through Dublin Port will have more than doubled. In the last five years alone, volumes have increased by 30 per cent. We are developing Dublin Port to reach its maximum capacity by 2040. We invested €75 million in 2017, will invest €132 million in 2018 and need to invest €1 billion in the 10 years to 2027 just to keep pace with growth. The lands in Dublin Port are far from underutilised. In 2016, throughput was 113,000 tonnes per hectare compared to 55,000 in Rotterdam and 49,000 in Barcelona. By 2040, this will rise to 300,000 tonnes.

Where would David McWilliams build his new port? What size would it be? How would he be sure he would get planning and other consents? How would he finance the project? What financial returns would it make? What economic returns would it generate?

David McWilliams patronises the management in Dublin Port by saying that we are “doing a fine job” and that “the same expert management are well placed to deal with a move”. Based on what we know about Dublin Port and about port development projects, we would never consider a project in any way resembling what he is suggesting because we believe it would be a waste of time and a waste of money. – Yours, etc,

EAMONN O’REILLY,

Dublin Port Company,

Port Centre,

Alexandra Road,

Dublin 1.


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
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Ah Jesus - the last thing the floppy haired commentator wants is cold hard facts. Especially if they make him look little a muppet :)


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:25 pm 
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I skimmed that article on moving the port looking for an answer to the question 'to where?' but never found it. Just move it...up a bit to, like, Rush or Skerries something? He doesn't even really propose a location because, when he thought about any specific alternative, it was a non-runner.

He has a bad habit of seeing something nice on his travels and thinking we should do that here. You get the sense that he rarely has a brain wave that he's not determined to squeeze an article out of; he either doesn't investigate deeply enough or, if he does, he rarely abandons ideas when faced with the impracticality of their execution. The Irish Times Editor might want a word with one of their newest and most expensive star signings.


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
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Ahern backs plan to move Dublin Port
Fri, Oct 20, 2006

The Taoiseach has endorsed a plan by the Progressive Democrats to move Dublin port north to a location near Balbriggan.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-b ... t-1.798220


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:43 pm 
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Ixelles wrote:
He has a bad habit of seeing something nice on his travels and thinking we should do that here.

bonus points for Copenhagen or somewhere cool; extra points for Barcelona especially;


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
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This comes up every 5-10 years and when looked at in detail always proves to be a non-runner. The only people who could do it would be Dublin Port themselves on a timescale of 10-20 years at a cost of billions.


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
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Move Dublin. Leave the port well enough alone.

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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:09 am 
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If we shift the port to Athlone, it would decentralise the population, freeing up commercial and residential properties for tech companies in the capital.

Water is a scarce resource so smart companies will use drones instead of ships and send growing volumes of goods electronically.

Think about it.

[McWilliams' out-of-the-box-thinking shtick may be running its course unless he starts trying a bit harder. He can't just bang out 700 words on a plane to Malmo]


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:52 am 
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The UK shows the danger of taking newspaper columnists too seriously. Guys like McWilliams are regarded as deep thinkers in the same way that Gove, Zac Goldsmith,Boris Johnson, Nick Timothy (May's advisor now a Torygraph columnist) are/were. They have a similar regard for details and consequences of their blue sky thinking.

The Dublin Port suggestion is a mere amusing brain fart compared to his other bright idea of guaranteeing de banks.

Let's not forget his previous rambling on how great the Stockholm rental market was even though the world and his mother knew it was even worse than Dublin. Lazy fucker


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:46 pm 
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Ixelles wrote:
He has a bad habit of seeing something nice on his travels and thinking we should do that here.

bonus points for Copenhagen or somewhere cool; extra points for Barcelona especially;

Or even move Dublin Port to Copenhagen or Barcelona, both coastal cities with land links to the rest of Europe.


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:34 am 
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But what makes a city thrive economically, culturally and socially?

A flourishing city is about much more than shiny new architecture or dynamic hubs of high-tech industries populated by well-heeled workers. A flourishing city is about diversity. And by diversity, we are not only talking about ethnic or cultural diversity but also about class diversity, income diversity, and age diversity – all living together, cheek by jowl.

In her seminal book, The Death and Life of Great American Cities, the wonderfully iconoclastic Canadian economist, Jane Jacobs, argued that great cities aren’t created at urban planners’ drawing boards, in fact cities evolve organically.

Jacobs suggested that cities are like humans with different organs, all dependent on each other, moving in harmony. She postulated that all the elements of the city – the people, the streets, the businesses, the government, the parks, the public spaces and the general economy – work together.


He fails to mention viewpoint diversity but hes still doing OK....

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Real Diversity

At the moment, Dublin is creating lots of well-paid jobs for tech-savvy coders, finance professionals, lawyers, and designers. If we can capitalise on Brexit, this trend will become more pronounced.

These developments are evidenced in the boom in commercial development all around the city.

But then we have to ask a question about the workers who clean these buildings, the people who work in retail where these professionals shop, the people who serve in bars and restaurants. Where will these people live?

Over the past few years, as rents have risen, the centre of Dublin between the canals is increasingly out of reach for lower paid workers and now, even well-paid workers.

For example, according to the CSO, the average monthly rent for a two-bedroom flat in Dublin 1 in 2011 was €1,045 a month. Today it is €1,500. That’s an increase of nearly 50 per cent.

However, the increase in average wages has been much lower. In 2011, the average wage was €806 a week, today it’s €852 per week, before tax. That’s an increase of just over 5 per cent.

So you can see that rents have risen 10 times faster than incomes. Rents in Dublin 2,3,4,5 and 6 reveal increases of a similar magnitude over the past seven years rendering “central Dublin” out of reach for average workers – and far beyond the budgets of low-skilled service workers.


http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/dublin-is ... e-workers/


And almost by way of illustration in todays IT

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Hundreds of protected historic flats, including blocks designed by renowned Dublin housing architect Herbert Simms, face “delisting” and demolition under new regeneration plans.

Dublin City Council wants to redevelop more than 6,000 flats in 109 complexes, all of which are more than 40 years old.

Most do not meet current building standards of accessibility, fire safety and building quality, and a significant number have mould, condensation and sewerage problems, the council said.

The council’s head of housing Brendan Kenny said it should consider removing some of its oldest flat blocks from the Record of Protected Structures (RPS) so they could be demolished to make way for new apartment complexes.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.3487164

As if a need exists to 'regenerate' inner city communities that have existed and lived together for generations....to be replaced no doubt by a 'diverse' mix of disconnected 'young professionals' who all act and think in unison...these people are like the fucking Borg

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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:54 am 
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Ah yes those wonderful inner city communities.
So much to lose by upgrading the shabby city.

Wot you on about mate ?


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 Post subject: Re: The David McWilliams thread
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:03 am 
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taipeir wrote:
Ah yes those wonderful inner city communities.
So much to lose by upgrading the shabby city.

Wot you on about mate ?


Chinese model?

Edit - If you want to regenerate, why not regenerate Foxrock and around? Ive heard most people from there have to travel elsewhere for work and that the place is a ghost town during the daytime.

As an example, the Liberties (one of those areas marked for diverse regeneration) is possibly the least in need of 'regenerating' in the entire city.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:09 am 
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As an example, the Liberties (one of those areas marked targeted for 'regeneration'...

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