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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:53 am 
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September 2017 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in September 2017 was 6.1% or 133,200, a monthly fall of -0.0% or -200.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... ember2017/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in September 2017 was 249,200, down -300 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Sep 2008 when it was 245,900.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... ember2017/

There were 51,992 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in September 2017 which represents 21.3% of the total Live Register (was 59,585 in September 2016 or 20.8%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
August 2017 was 51,065 (August 2016 was 58,860)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 13.7%
[249,200 (September 2017)+ 51,992 (August 2017)/ 2,191,400 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:17 pm 
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October 2017 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in October r 2017 was 6.0% or 131,300, a monthly fall of -0.1% or -1,800.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... tober2017/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in October 2017 was 246,900, down -2,400 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Sep 2008 when it was 245,900.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... tober2017/

There were 51,290 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in October 2017 which represents 21.7% of the total Live Register (was 59,388 in October 2016 or 21.5%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
September 2017 was 57,919 (September 2016 was 65,276)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 13.9%
[246,900 (October 2017)+ 57,919 (September 2017)/ 2,191,400 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:18 pm 
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November 2017 Live Register/Unemployment Rate

The seasonally adjusted Unemployment rate in November 2017 was 6.1% or 138,100, a monthly fall of -0.2% or -3,400.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... ember2017/

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in November 2017 was 244,300, down -2,600 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Aug 2008 when it was 233,900.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... ember2017/

There were 51,344 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in November 2017 which represents 22.0% of the total Live Register (was 59,643 in November 2016 or 21.8%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
October 2017 was 60,883 (October 2016 was 70,878)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 13.9%
[244,300 (November 2017)+ 60,883 (October 2017)/ 2,191,400 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:09 pm 
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On Oct 02, 2013, TheJackal wrote:
September 2013 Live Register
http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/releas ... ep2013.pdf

The standardised unemployment rate (SUR) in September 2013 was 13.3%, down 0.1% or 1,800 to 414,300

There were 82,295 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in September
2013, which represents 20.1% of the total Live Register.

Live Register Activation Programmes: August 2013 was 63,289 (July 2013 was 63,646)
Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.

If you look at Table 3 Seasonally Adjusted Standardised Unemployment Rates
Highest unemployment rate was 15.1% Feb 2012.
Now 13.3%, lowest since March 2010

Edit: Some other interesting stats from the tables

Table 10 Live Register Compositional Analysis
Non-Irish nationals: was 17.3% in Sep 2010. Now 16.9% in Sep 2013
Under 25 years: was 20.0% in Sep 2010. Now 16.2% in Sep 2013


Thanks for the continued posting on this subject.
Taking the post above, how would you calculate the broad jobless rate? Have you ever tried to calculate it back to the crash and beyond. Would be interesting to see a graph over time.


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:55 pm 
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I had a quick look back on jackals posts

Code:
Feb-15   20.5
Mar-15   20.3
Apr-15   20.4
May-15   20.3
Jun-15   19.9
Oct-15   18.7
Nov-15   18.1
Dec-15   18.8
Jan-16   18.6
Feb-16   18.4
Mar-16   18.3
Apr-16   18.1
May-16   18
Jun-16   17.4
Jul-16   16.8
Aug-16   16.3
Sep-16   15.9
Oct-16   16
Nov-16   16.1
Dec-16   16
Jan-17   15.8
Feb-17   15.7
Mar-17   15.5
Apr-17   15.2
May-17   15.1
Jun-17   14.5
Jul-17   14.1
Aug-17   13.7
Sep-17   
Oct-17   13.9
Nov-17   13.9

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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:31 pm 
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December 2017 Live Register

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in December 2017 was 241,300, down -2,900 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Aug 2008 when it was 233,900.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... ember2017/

There were 51,159 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in December 2017 which represents 21.7% of the total Live Register (was 59,908 in December 2016 or 21.7%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
November 2017 was 63,557 (November 2016 was 71,829)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 13.9%
[241,300 (December 2017)+ 63,557 (November 2017)/ 2,191,400 in Labour Force per QNHS Q2 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:32 pm 
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I see CSO are bringing out a new Labour Force Survey (replacing the QNHS) for Q3 2017 onwards later this month

http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... tatistics/


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:32 pm 
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QNHS Q3 2017 stats are out
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter32017/

The QNHS has been revised and will now be called the Labour force Survey (LFS)
http://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pres ... rter32017/


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Interestingly, Unemployment peaked at 15.9% back in Q3 2011, higher than the reported 15.2% peak under the old QNHS methodology


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:25 am 
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Financial penalties for jobseekers over lack of engagement rise
Sanctions for jobseekers ‘not engaging’ increased from 1,519 in 2012 to 16,451 last year
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... -1.3364648
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Fianna Fáil has described the rise in the number of people who had their Jobseeker’s Allowance cut for lack of engagement with employment services as “worrying”.

The number of sanctions imposed by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection has continued to rise each year since the measures were introduced in 2011.
In the first year of the new penalty rates just 359 sanctions were issued. In 2012, 1,519 sanctions were issued by the department, which increased to 5,325 in 2014 and again to 6,743 the following year. In 2016 the department placed 10,867 sanctions on payments, which rose again by more than 50 per cent to 16,451 last year.
Sanctions can be applied to individuals receiving Jobseeker’s Allowance if they fail to attend meetings with department employment officers, or for failing to take up offers of work, an internship, or training “without good cause”.
If a person is deemed to be “failing to engage”, sanctions include a cut to their benefit payments of up to €44 a week....
...Fianna Fáil spokesman for social protection Willie O’Dea TD said that the “almost exponential rise” in the use of sanctions in the past seven years was “very worrying”. He said the penalties represented a “new dog-whistle style of politics” and should not be used to “stigmatise or belittle” those in receipt of social welfare....
...A spokesman for Social Justice Ireland, the think tank and advocacy organisation, said the growing scale of the sanctions regime was of “serious concern”. He said the increase in the reliance on financial sanctions for failure to engage with department services showed that the assistance programmes “may not be appropriate” in meeting the needs of jobseekers.
Senator Ged Nash said it was important that people out of work were supported and “not threatened and coerced” to upskill, retrain or take up new job opportunities.
Mr Nash, the Labour spokesman for employment affairs, said he had received complaints from constituents about “unrealistic demands and burdens” placed on jobseekers under the current employment support system.

The usual populists out to defend the non-working man. There is nothing FF won't support if there are potentially votes in it as their leader showed last week.


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:49 pm 
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FreeFallin wrote:
Financial penalties for jobseekers over lack of engagement rise
Sanctions for jobseekers ‘not engaging’ increased from 1,519 in 2012 to 16,451 last year
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... -1.3364648
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Fianna Fáil has described the rise in the number of people who had their Jobseeker’s Allowance cut for lack of engagement with employment services as “worrying”.

The number of sanctions imposed by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection has continued to rise each year since the measures were introduced in 2011.
In the first year of the new penalty rates just 359 sanctions were issued. In 2012, 1,519 sanctions were issued by the department, which increased to 5,325 in 2014 and again to 6,743 the following year. In 2016 the department placed 10,867 sanctions on payments, which rose again by more than 50 per cent to 16,451 last year.
Sanctions can be applied to individuals receiving Jobseeker’s Allowance if they fail to attend meetings with department employment officers, or for failing to take up offers of work, an internship, or training “without good cause”.
If a person is deemed to be “failing to engage”, sanctions include a cut to their benefit payments of up to €44 a week....
...Fianna Fáil spokesman for social protection Willie O’Dea TD said that the “almost exponential rise” in the use of sanctions in the past seven years was “very worrying”. He said the penalties represented a “new dog-whistle style of politics” and should not be used to “stigmatise or belittle” those in receipt of social welfare....
...A spokesman for Social Justice Ireland, the think tank and advocacy organisation, said the growing scale of the sanctions regime was of “serious concern”. He said the increase in the reliance on financial sanctions for failure to engage with department services showed that the assistance programmes “may not be appropriate” in meeting the needs of jobseekers.
Senator Ged Nash said it was important that people out of work were supported and “not threatened and coerced” to upskill, retrain or take up new job opportunities.
Mr Nash, the Labour spokesman for employment affairs, said he had received complaints from constituents about “unrealistic demands and burdens” placed on jobseekers under the current employment support system.

The usual populists out to defend the non-working man. There is nothing FF won't support if there are potentially votes in it as their leader showed last week.

My brother is an electrician, those on jobseekers dont want to put in the hours and either 'work' for a few weeks or come up with crazy stuff during the interview process.
The only one who will work for him is a former refugee. Just one ancedotal experience. If your JS is cut, id image you had a few chances to avail of a job

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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:25 pm 
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January 2018 Live Register

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in January 2018 was 238,400, down -3,000 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Aug 2008 when it was 233,900.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... nuary2018/

There were 50,231 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in January 2018 which represents 21.2% of the total Live Register (was 59,480 in December 2016 or 21.5%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
December 2017 was 61,072 (December 2016 was 71,828)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 12.6%
[238,400 (January 2018)+ 61,072 (December 2017)/ 2,191,400 per Labour Force Survey Q3 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:53 pm 
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Labour Force Survey /QNHS Q4 2017 stats are out
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter42017/

As of Q3 2017 the QNHS has been revised and will now be called the Labour Force Survey (LFS)
http://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pres ... rter32017/

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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 11:26 am 
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April 2018 Live Register

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in April 2018 was 229,600, down -3,100 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Jul 2008 when it was 222,800.
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... april2018/

There were 48,127 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in April 2018 which represents 21.5% of the total Live Register (was 58,096 in April 2017 or 22.1%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
March 2018 was 59,333 (March 2017 was 67,381)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 12.2%
[229,600 (April 2018)+ 59,333 (March 2018)/ 2,375,200 per Labour Force Survey Q4 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:56 pm 
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May 2018 Live Register

The seasonally adjusted Live Register figure in May 2018 was 224,900, down -4,100 monthly.
This is the lowest rate since Jul 2008 when it was 222,800.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic ... ermay2018/

There were 46,917 casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in May 2018 which represents 21.0% of the total Live Register (was 56,966 in May 2017 or 21.7%)

Live Register Activation Programmes:
April 2018 was 58,900 (April 2017 was 66,799)

Persons on activation programmes are not counted as part of the monthly Live Register.
Figures available go back to Jan 2007. Lowest ever was 44,174 in Aug 2009; highest was 89,704 in Mar 2015.

Broad Jobless Rate:
If we add the total Live Register rate + Live Register Activation Programmes, the broad jobless rate stands at 11.9%
[224,900 (May 2018)+ 58,900 (April 2018)/ 2,375,200 per Labour Force Survey Q4 2017]


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 Post subject: Re: Unemployment rises to 14.9%
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Labour force Survey Q1 2018 stats are out
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic ... rter12018/

As of Q3 2017 the QNHS has been revised and will now be called the Labour force Survey (LFS)
http://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pres ... rter32017/

Further revisions took place in Q1 2018
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic ... rter12018/

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