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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:47 pm 
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temene wrote:
€ has sunk immediately

and immediately popped back up! automatic trading, gota love it. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:08 am 
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yoganmahew wrote:
More pointless string pushing. Even if they succeed, we'll all be poorer as their aim is simply to raise consumer prices...



No, they have said that their aim is to counter "deflation" which could destroy economic performance.
At least that's what I heard on RTE (aka Irish Pravda) yesterday. :x

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:43 am 
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dipole wrote:
I've got a (large to me) lump sum deposit which matures in early November. It will not be going back on deposit except maybe for a small part.
It will go in to shares. It will not go in to a house in Ireland.
These ECB rates do have an effect on behaviour although the behavour they encourage may not be beneficial to society.



It seems to me that cutting rates seems to allow money to return into property in some countries. The bubbles are more specific in location than before however.


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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:07 pm 
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German 10 year bunds negative for the first time ever.


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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:58 am 
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German 10 year bunds negative for the first time ever.

Brexit has been quite good for the German exchequer so far.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:17 pm 
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Have Irish bonds gone up or down since Brexit?


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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:26 pm 
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The ecb are going to have a lot more periphery bonds available to purchase in the near future.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:16 pm 
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BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:04 pm 
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ixus wrote:
BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J


Poll miss again..... Groundhog Day results.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:45 pm 
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ixus wrote:
BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J

Will we see Greece Mk. II I wonder? Populists making promises with other people's money that they can't keep?


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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:29 pm 
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ixus wrote:
BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J

Eh, wrong!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36632276
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The conservative People's Party (PP) of acting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has won most seats in Spain's parliamentary election but is short of a majority, according to results based on 90% of votes counted.

The Socialist PSOE - the other traditional party - is in second place.

The left-wing Unidos Podemos coalition and centre-right Ciudadanos are in third and fourth.

The vote was held to break the deadlock from December's inconclusive poll.

The PP is predicted to win 136 seats (up 13) and the PSOE 86 (down four) - contradicting an earlier exit poll suggesting the Socialists had slipped into third place.

Unidos Podemos will win 71 (no change) and Ciudadanos 32 (down 8), forecasts suggest.

Of course, those forecasts could also be pants.

Wishing for change doesn't make it so.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:45 pm 
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yoganmahew wrote:
ixus wrote:
BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J

Eh, wrong!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36632276
Quote:
The conservative People's Party (PP) of acting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has won most seats in Spain's parliamentary election but is short of a majority, according to results based on 90% of votes counted.

The Socialist PSOE - the other traditional party - is in second place.

The left-wing Unidos Podemos coalition and centre-right Ciudadanos are in third and fourth.

The vote was held to break the deadlock from December's inconclusive poll.

The PP is predicted to win 136 seats (up 13) and the PSOE 86 (down four) - contradicting an earlier exit poll suggesting the Socialists had slipped into third place.

Unidos Podemos will win 71 (no change) and Ciudadanos 32 (down 8), forecasts suggest.

Of course, those forecasts could also be pants.

Wishing for change doesn't make it so.

in fairness El Pais was saying earlier that PSOE + Podemos would have an overall majority (and that C's would lose quite a few seats)

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El mal resultado cuestiona la alianza de Podemos e IU y la estrategia de Iglesias


shouldn't need a translation (IU are the PBP types)


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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:10 am 
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yoganmahew wrote:
ixus wrote:
BOOM!

According to Exit Poll, Unidos Podemos+PSOE have absolute majority. #Spain #26J

Eh, wrong!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36632276
Quote:
The conservative People's Party (PP) of acting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has won most seats in Spain's parliamentary election but is short of a majority, according to results based on 90% of votes counted.

The Socialist PSOE - the other traditional party - is in second place.

The left-wing Unidos Podemos coalition and centre-right Ciudadanos are in third and fourth.

The vote was held to break the deadlock from December's inconclusive poll.

The PP is predicted to win 136 seats (up 13) and the PSOE 86 (down four) - contradicting an earlier exit poll suggesting the Socialists had slipped into third place.

Unidos Podemos will win 71 (no change) and Ciudadanos 32 (down 8), forecasts suggest.

Of course, those forecasts could also be pants.

Wishing for change doesn't make it so.



The post was from El Pais tweets. If you had read my subsequent post you'd see correction. Not my fault polls missed so badly. I blame the elite pollsters.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:39 am 
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ixus wrote:
The post was from El Pais tweets. If you had read my subsequent post you'd see correction. Not my fault polls missed so badly. I blame the elite pollsters.

I was saying the polls were wrong.

You jumped the gun by believing the polls, which have been unreliable in the last umpteen elections. It's quite the poser, really, given how reliable they used to be.

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 Post subject: Re: ECB Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:16 am 
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I wouldn't trust any poll, unless there was a clear <10% trend one way or another.
The Brexit exit poll being a classic example, it had the Remain side ahead before midnight.

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