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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:42 am 
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The CAP is no longer the favoured whipping boy of Eurosceptics, having been reformed considerably by Franz Fischler in late 90s.

Price supports and quotas are all gone. There are no butter mountains or wine lakes and the prices of EU goods are close to those on world markets.

Instead, what you basically have is relatively large amounts of money being given to people on a per-hectare basis once they farm it.

While this is better than the CAP of the 90s, it is still pretty problematic. Why not give subsidies to people to run sweet shops? Or practice basket weaving?

Interestingly enough agriculture and fisheries is the only area of policy where Brexiteers can credibly claim they have a better policy alternative. Not that the referendum was fought on that basis!


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm 
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https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2018/0116/933787-brittany-ferries-cork-spain/

.... and so it begins!


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:14 am 
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It's a chartered ferry and only for the summer
Port of Cork said "the option for freight carriers to bypass the UK land bridge will be seen as very attractive as Brexit uncertainty continues. We have no doubt that both exporters and importers will make this a viable service."
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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:39 pm 
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temene wrote:
It's a chartered ferry and only for the summer
Port of Cork said "the option for freight carriers to bypass the UK land bridge will be seen as very attractive as Brexit uncertainty continues. We have no doubt that both exporters and importers will make this a viable service."
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I though it operated every year for the last 5-6 years?

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:46 pm 
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I thought it operated every year for the last 5-6 years?

Eh, no. BrittanyFerries: "We believe this will be the first time there has been a ferry service linking Ireland and Spain."


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:51 pm 
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Farage calling out Varadkar this morning for sacrificing Irish interests to his devotion to the EU


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:57 pm 
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He said that Vardakar "worked here as a young man". Did Varadkar work in the EU structure - is that publicised anywhere?

TheJournal - Farage brands Varadkar a 'European unionist' as he attacks Irish relationship with EU


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:12 pm 
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temene wrote:
He said that Vardakar "worked here as a young man". Did Varadkar work in the EU structure - is that publicised anywhere?

TheJournal - Farage brands Varadkar a 'European unionist' as he attacks Irish relationship with EU


Served as VP of the EPP youth wing according to:
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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:23 pm 
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I never knew that Varadkar was such an EU federalist and groomed to be a leader!
Varadkar began his political career as an active member of YoungFineGael in the 1990s. He was vice-president of the European People's Party's youth wing and participated in the Washington-Ireland Programme that grooms potential future leaders.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:25 pm 
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The ironies never end with Farage. Last week he was saying another referendum may be needed in the UK but today he chides Ireland for reruns, whilst ignoring that 2016 was a second vote on the European project!

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:55 pm 
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Addressing these comments, Varadkar told Farage: “I come from a country of 4.5 million people and I was sitting around the table as an equal and that isn’t the way Europe used to work.

“I’m not naive to think it could have the power or importance such as Germany but I know we have a voice.”

We have a voice when it suits the EU.
But when the banking collapse happened, it appeared that the likes of Timothy Geithner in the US had more say over our affairs with Europe than we did


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:00 pm 
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The ironies never end with Farage. Last week he was saying another referendum may be needed in the UK but today he chides Ireland for reruns, whilst ignoring that 2016 was a second vote on the European project!

Cribbing about reruns is inane.

Treaty was rejected, Ireland went back got reassurances [which supposedly small countries can't get] and voted yes on massively increased turnout.

Torygraph wrote:
The Irish Republic endorsed the Nice Treaty yesterday voting two to one in its favour in a second referendum.

More than 1.4 million people voted, a turnout of 48 per cent, with 63 per cent in favour and 37 per cent against.

Nearly 18 months ago the first Nice referendum severely embarrassed the coalition government of the Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, with 54 per cent rejecting the treaty on a turnout of less than 35 per cent.

The treaty, which sets out the rules for a larger European Union, had to be ratified by all 15 members.

All, including Britain, had done this through their parliaments, but the Irish were constitutionally bound to hold a referendum.

The treaty, signed in December 2000, eliminates the national veto in 30 areas, permits a two-speed Europe and formalises the Charter of Fundamental Rights.

It also brings defence into the EU ambit, which was perceived to threaten the treasured neutrality of Ireland - an issue used effectively by the No camp in the first referendum.

Ireland secured an EU declaration that it could opt out of military operations


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:10 pm 
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FreeFallin wrote:
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Addressing these comments, Varadkar told Farage: “I come from a country of 4.5 million people and I was sitting around the table as an equal and that isn’t the way Europe used to work.

“I’m not naive to think it could have the power or importance such as Germany but I know we have a voice.”

We have a voice when it suits the EU.
But when the banking collapse happened, it appeared that the likes of Timothy Geithner in the US had more say over our affairs with Europe than we did


what's with the passive voice - you make it sound like it wasn't our fault

We guaranteed our banks despite Europe not because of Europe

https://www.independent.ie/business/iri ... 38356.html

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US President Obama's most senior economic official during the global financial crisis has claimed Ireland was "stupid" to guarantee the banks.

Former US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who stepped down last year, said the country couldn't afford the 2008 blanket guarantee, which lumped €64bn of bank losses on taxpayers.

"Ireland, most people view in retrospect, was stupid to guarantee all their banks. They couldn't afford it," the former US Treasury Secretary said.

"They were eight times the size of their economy. Now it's easy for us to say that."

The comments are from raw transcripts of interviews that Mr Geithner had with assistants preparing his recent book, which recalled his time in the top US financial job during the global economic crisis.

He also wondered whether Europe should have stepped in and guaranteed the banks as it could afford it.

"The Irish couldn't," he said.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:32 pm 
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The passive voice :lol:

Did Geither not stop us from burning bondholders? That's what I was referring to


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:04 pm 
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FreeFallin wrote:
The passive voice :lol:

Did Geither not stop us from burning bondholders? That's what I was referring to


he told the IMF not to allow it - [well actually could have done it but we were simultaneously begging for further funds at the same time]

Not sure why you bring "Europe" into it - which is what I was referring to.

In any event the point stands - we were the authors of our misfortune by going behind Europe's back with the original guarantee (after thumbing our noses at Europe for ages). To claim otherwise is revisionism


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