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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:48 pm 
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Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

A good entrepreneur would be looking at what we import from the UK and seeing if it can be replaced directly from the continent.

One person's crisis is another's opportunity.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:58 am 
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Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am 
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Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.


Exactly.

A bit of post Brexit public disorder splashed across the headlines in Italy, Hungary or Poland however could be just what the doctor ordered in terms of seeking to convince others not to follow suit.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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dolanbaker wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.

The simple fact is is that without a transition to transition to in March the UK cease to be a trade ally.

We're either in a trade bloc with rules or we aren't.

Money does find a way, out of GBP.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:41 pm 
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dolanbaker wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.


I couldn't comment on the Mad Max scenario but I have to say if we were talking about rational people that all had the same interestes I'd agree with you, but we're not, we're talking about politicians jostling over national interests on the international stage, on countless occasions in human history that has resulted in a lot worse catastrophies than a bad Brexit.

Just because we've had little violence on our streets or accross Europe in recent decades doesn't mean we've evolved beyond it.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:56 am 
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catbear wrote:
Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.


Or in JRM's case, two centuries.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:46 am 
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Madness of Crowds wrote:
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Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.


Or in JRM's case, two centuries.


JRM probably thinks Black '47 is breaking news and the solutions offered yesterday were to sort the Corn Laws.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:03 pm 
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May and Raab have both now floated the idea that they "won't pay the divorce bill" if they don't get a deal on the rest. This isn't a penalty payment, it's money they committed to the pot while they were members - these budgets (or 'multi-annual framework' to use the catchy Brussels term) are real commitments. And some of it is in money (e.g. research funding) that the UK's institutions/companies/universities avail of.

What would actually happen if they defaulted on that obligation would be an enormous loss of face (which is why Philip Hammond earlier dismissed the idea as a non-runner) followed by legal action. They should be embarrassed that their leaders are making such a lame and empty threat to please the Daily Express & co.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Ixelles wrote:
followed by legal action.


In a court they no longer recognise? If you're talking about empty threats...


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:49 pm 
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Quote:
No Deal Brexit Could Make It Harder For UK To Spot Things Falling From Space, Warns Government

A no deal Brexit could limit the UK’s ability to spot space debris crashing to Earth, the government has warned.

On Thursday ministers published 28 documents setting out the consequences of crashing out of the EU without a deal.



:lol: :lol:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... mg00000008

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:54 pm 
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This is getting ridiculous. Daily Mail changes editor and suddenly it's everyone behind May against Johnson and the ERG.

Next the Daily Express will have "No Deal will give you Hemorrhoids!"

It's feels like the fix is in. Just make it sound like whatever deal they get for the transition should sound like a major concession for the Uk and tough but firm from the EU side.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:00 pm 
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Ixelles wrote:
followed by legal action.


In a court they no longer recognise? If you're talking about empty threats...

The way it would work is that they've recognised the amount due. Even after a no deal, the UK can't survive a no deal and will eventually crawl back. At that point, the recognised Bill is the price to be paid.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:25 pm 
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This is interesting and alarming at the same time. Interesting in that it's an English newspaper, alarming that the treaty nature of the GFA appears to be not understood in London, or at least big chunks of the Tory party.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -agreement

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:11 am 
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45516678
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Brexit: Carney warns no-deal could see house prices plunge

The cabinet meeting was part of a series no-deal planning sessions designed to discuss the "unlikely" scenario that the UK leaves the EU without an agreement in place. After each meeting, planning papers are published on various subjects.

On Thursday, the papers disclosed that UK car drivers may have to get an international driving permit if they want to drive in some European countries after a no-deal Brexit.

The government said that after March 2019 "your driving licence may no longer be valid by itself" in the EU, in its latest no-deal planning papers.

The papers also warned that Britons travelling to the EU may need to make sure their passports have six months left to run.

And, in an interview with BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab said the government was trying to give the "reassurance that consumers need" on the issue of mobile phone roaming charges but admitted that European operators could pass on charges.
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