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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:48 pm 
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Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

A good entrepreneur would be looking at what we import from the UK and seeing if it can be replaced directly from the continent.

One person's crisis is another's opportunity.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:58 am 
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Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am 
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Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.


Exactly.

A bit of post Brexit public disorder splashed across the headlines in Italy, Hungary or Poland however could be just what the doctor ordered in terms of seeking to convince others not to follow suit.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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dolanbaker wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.

The simple fact is is that without a transition to transition to in March the UK cease to be a trade ally.

We're either in a trade bloc with rules or we aren't.

Money does find a way, out of GBP.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:41 pm 
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dolanbaker wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
Well many activities in Ireland are fooked then as well.

Let's get preppin

WOW! looks like some people are beginning to equate Brexit with Mad Max!
If there's nothing else that can be learnt from the 2008 financial crisis, it is that those in charge can tear up rule books when they need to, with the huge sums of money involved in UK - EU trade, I can see no reason for the leaders of the EU & UK not fudging the issue to avoid a catastrophic breakdown.

It will not be allowed to completely fail.


I couldn't comment on the Mad Max scenario but I have to say if we were talking about rational people that all had the same interestes I'd agree with you, but we're not, we're talking about politicians jostling over national interests on the international stage, on countless occasions in human history that has resulted in a lot worse catastrophies than a bad Brexit.

Just because we've had little violence on our streets or accross Europe in recent decades doesn't mean we've evolved beyond it.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.


Or in JRM's case, two centuries.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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catbear wrote:
Rees Mogg doing groundhog day with his technological solution for the Irish border.

Literally zero progress in two years.


Or in JRM's case, two centuries.


JRM probably thinks Black '47 is breaking news and the solutions offered yesterday were to sort the Corn Laws.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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May and Raab have both now floated the idea that they "won't pay the divorce bill" if they don't get a deal on the rest. This isn't a penalty payment, it's money they committed to the pot while they were members - these budgets (or 'multi-annual framework' to use the catchy Brussels term) are real commitments. And some of it is in money (e.g. research funding) that the UK's institutions/companies/universities avail of.

What would actually happen if they defaulted on that obligation would be an enormous loss of face (which is why Philip Hammond earlier dismissed the idea as a non-runner) followed by legal action. They should be embarrassed that their leaders are making such a lame and empty threat to please the Daily Express & co.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
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Ixelles wrote:
followed by legal action.


In a court they no longer recognise? If you're talking about empty threats...


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