Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1207 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:11 pm 
Offline
Single Home Owner

Joined: May 21, 2017
Posts: 131
Garda analysts "put through 15 months of torment" because they refused to sign off on fake homicide statistics?

Two women bullied by top brass when they stood up for their professional standards to expose the truth about the most serious crimes?

This will catch fire :shock:

Busy week for Garda media management while Sgt. McCabe gives evidence. :x

If a police force fakes homicide data, what's a million breath-tests?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3418654


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:54 am 
Offline
Too Big to Fail
User avatar

Joined: Aug 21, 2009
Posts: 4477
Location: Mesopotatia
Lefournier3 wrote:
Garda analysts "put through 15 months of torment" because they refused to sign off on fake homicide statistics?

Two women bullied by top brass when they stood up for their professional standards to expose the truth about the most serious crimes?

This will catch fire :shock:

Busy week for Garda media management while Sgt. McCabe gives evidence. :x

If a police force fakes homicide data, what's a million breath-tests?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3418654


Pathetic stuff. People too busy ass covering to do a productive days work.

_________________
The real damage is done by those millions who want to 'get by'. The ordinary men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what?
Sophie Scholl


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:11 pm 
Offline
Too Big to Fail

Joined: Aug 8, 2008
Posts: 3506
Location: Cathair na dTreabh
That homicide stats scandal is barely news, yet if this was two years ago, it would have shocked the State to its core.
Donegal TD Thomas Pringle made the point that we need to sack the top 200 garda and sever the DoJ connection to the Garda. It is politicians who decided/decide which person gets the top jobs, ergo a garda needs political connections to progress. He alluded there is more scandals to come.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:22 pm 
Online
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Dec 2, 2013
Posts: 2591
Two days of bizarre headlines and reporting and quoting on Maurice McCabe by the Irish Times. Are they annoyed that RTE and Mick Clifford and Broadsheet have done all the running on the story ?


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3420234


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... 0?mode=amp


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:52 pm 
Offline
Single Home Owner

Joined: Apr 8, 2013
Posts: 193
and the leader of the homicide inquiry appears to have been an assistant commissioner appointed by noirin o Sullivan that same year. It's worrying that this isn't even the old guard protecting their position, instead this was an appointee (since hastily retired) who was expected to succeed Osullivan.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:39 pm 
Offline
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Feb 24, 2008
Posts: 1634
This keystone cops BS is exactly the kind of stuff Maurice Mc Cabe was complaining about in Cavan. I have no faith in Garda anymore and I can't understand why other people don't care... '


All this over an unpaid TV licence' - innocent young woman sent to Mountjoy Prison in case of mistaken identity

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 85145.html


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:44 pm 
Offline
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Oct 22, 2007
Posts: 1822
DSE3Br wrote:
This keystone cops BS is exactly the kind of stuff Maurice Mc Cabe was complaining about in Cavan. I have no faith in Garda anymore and I can't understand why other people don't care... '


All this over an unpaid TV licence' - innocent young woman sent to Mountjoy Prison in case of mistaken identity

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 85145.html


That's a proper balls up alright it's Kafkaesque. She's too forgiving on the Guards saying she holds them no ill-will. If they'd've shown her the bench warrent which she asked for and I'm pretty sure she's entitled to see, she could have sent them on their way no harm no foul. They processed her without verifying her identity.

_________________
No tool is omnicompetent. There is no such thing as a master-key that will unlock all doors.
--Arnold Toynbee

If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.
--Epictetus


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:51 am 
Offline
Single Home Owner

Joined: May 21, 2017
Posts: 131
Another chapter in the Ian Bailey saga.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoint ... 69703.html

Note the huge spread in estimated costs:2 to 5 million. Considering the work was finished years ago. Pick a number and try to get it past the Master :?

Of course, Bailey won't pay the State's costs, we will :evil:

His own lawyers will call it pro bono - they knew the risks when they took the case

20 years of futile Garda work - barking up the wrong tree or botched investigation?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:34 pm 
Offline
Too Big to Fail

Joined: Aug 8, 2008
Posts: 3506
Location: Cathair na dTreabh
Former Garda Commissioner Noirin O’Sullivan sought her resignation, but IMoS reveals the full story of a commended female detective and her six-year battle to save her career, after she unearthed a scandal in her local garda station
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbVxJoxXcAIaynu.jpg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:11 am 
Offline
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Mar 31, 2010
Posts: 2773
Hard to know what to think of the situation unfolding tonight in Cherrywood...heartbreaking for the family of the girl - who is still missing.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/m ... 27868.html
A man being sought in relation to the disappearance of student Jastine Valdez has been shot dead during an armed garda operation this evening. Gardai had been searching for the driver of a black Nissan jeep in relation to the disappearance of the 24-year-old.
This evening in Cherrywood a man in his 40s was shot dead during a garda operation.
The man is from the Bray area and understood to be a father of two.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:23 am 
Online
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Dec 2, 2013
Posts: 2591
Is there any chance the media and police could stop this "Father of 2/4/10" stuff after every crime ? Why is it always reported ? How is it relevant ? Is there an implication that this should be taken info account ? It's not like he stole a loaf of bread to feed the family.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:29 am 
Offline
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Feb 24, 2008
Posts: 1634
GameBlame wrote:
Is there any chance the media and police could stop this "Father of 2/4/10" stuff after every crime ? Why is it always reported ? How is it relevant ? Is there an implication that this should be taken info account ? It's not like he stole a loaf of bread to feed the family.

Because in addition to the victim and her family, the family of the perpetrator will be utterly devastated by this turn of events. Graham Dwyer's family will have been similarly devastated and they also are wholly innocent.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:56 am 
Online
Under CAB Investigation

Joined: Dec 2, 2013
Posts: 2591
DSE3Br wrote:
GameBlame wrote:
Is there any chance the media and police could stop this "Father of 2/4/10" stuff after every crime ? Why is it always reported ? How is it relevant ? Is there an implication that this should be taken info account ? It's not like he stole a loaf of bread to feed the family.

Because in addition to the victim and her family, the family of the perpetrator will be utterly devastated by this turn of events. Graham Dwyer's family will have been similarly devastated and they also are wholly innocent.


nonsense. We don't know what their home life was like. I suspect they're immensely better without an abductor there. Publicising the wife and children only adds to the attention on them and is partly in the media's self interest by enabling follow up background pieces about his home life.

It is also maybe inadvertently partly in the perpetrator's interest. They do it for career criminals too where the adults in the family is entirely aware of they're all living off the proceeds of crime. But it creates the pretence of a stable home life and Sunday dinners and is designed to humanise perpetrators and show they had a "home life" separate to their criminal actions. It's like a little bit of advanced character witness testimony, 'ah but sure he was a good daddy when he wasn't robbing or abducting'


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:02 am 
Offline
Of Systemic Importance

Joined: Sep 13, 2012
Posts: 5210
We don't know, and yet you're happy to speculate.

Usual right wing lynch mob attitude, total lack of empathy.

_________________
"It's easy to confuse what is with what ought to be, especially when what is has worked out in your favour"
Tyrion Lannister


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:09 am 
Offline
Planning Tribunal Attendee

Joined: Jun 14, 2012
Posts: 1030
GameBlame wrote:
Is there any chance the media and police could stop this "Father of 2/4/10" stuff after every crime ? Why is it always reported ? How is it relevant ? Is there an implication that this should be taken info account ? It's not like he stole a loaf of bread to feed the family.


Agreed. Totally irrelevant information. It’s as though the Irish media places higher value on the lives of parents than citizens without children. Recall when that school teacher, Hawe, slaughtered his entire family, in the immediate aftermath he was praised as a family man. The reporting of it seemed to want to convey that it was inconceivable that this family man could have really carried out those murders. Is it the idea that a person who has had unprotected sex resulting in offspring is a better person?

I await a headline along the lines of “A woman has been killed in a traffic accident. She had no children”.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1207 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  

Click for Latest Posts LATEST POSTS Click for Forum List FORUMS   

Follow, Retweet @dailypinster

  

Pyramid Built, Is Better Built!