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 Post subject: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:11 pm 
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The latest Planning Permission stats are out. Thought I'd compare them to peak.

I've looked at the CSO stats from Q1 1993 to Q3 2012
1993 to 1999 see page 6
2000 to 2004 see page 6
2005 to 2007 see page 6
2008 to 2012 see page 6

Number of Dwelling Units Approved

Houses
Quarter 3 2011; 1,887
Quarter 3 2012: 1,540
Annual % change: -18.4%

Quarter 3 2012: 1,638
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -92.5%

Apartments
Quarter 3 2011: 625
Quarter 3 2012: 98
Annual % change: -84.3%

Quarter 3 2012: 98
Peak Q3 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -99.0%

Total
Quarter 3 2011: 2,512
Quarter 3 2012: 1,638
Annual % change: -34.8%


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:19 pm 
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No surprise there. Oversupply of houses in some areas, many builders broke, credit hard to get. Will stay low for a few more years at least I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:42 pm 
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I would expect to see an increase in greater Dublin area within 24 months.


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:43 pm 
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I wonder how many apartments have PP but are incomplete or even unstarted? There may be a PP 'overhang' in the tens of thousands. But PP for only 98 in Q3 2012? Wow.


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:38 pm 
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Barney Gumble wrote:
I wonder how many apartments have PP but are incomplete or even unstarted? There may be a PP 'overhang' in the tens of thousands. But PP for only 98 in Q3 2012? Wow.

Personally I am surprised there were applications for 98.


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:18 pm 
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FKALL wrote:
I would expect to see an increase in greater Dublin area within 24 months.
Why will it take that long?


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:40 pm 
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FKALL wrote:
Personally I am surprised there were applications for 98.

I know of some people who've done applications in order to be seen to be doing something, having been pressurised by the bank.


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Indo reporting drop in Apts today

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 32372.html


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:51 pm 
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http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/releas ... q42012.pdf

Q4 2012 figures out today

Houses down 7.6% annually
Apts down 30.4%
Total down 14.1%


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:32 pm 
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Planning Permissions
Quarter 1 2013

Number of Dwelling Units Approved
http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter12013/

Houses
Quarter 1 2012: 1,263
Quarter 1 2013: 1,860
Annual % change: +47.3%

Quarter 1 2013: 1,860
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -91.5%

Apartments
Quarter 1 2012: 92
Quarter 1 2013: 448
Annual % change: +387%

Quarter 1 2013: 448
Peak Q3 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -95.5%

Total
Quarter 1 2012: 1,355
Quarter 1 2013: 2,308
Annual % change: +70.3%


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