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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:06 am 
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CSO have presented an Infographic for this quater's figures

http://www.cso.ie/en/newsandevents/pres ... fographic/

including
-Half of all houses are once off
-5 counties account for 50% of all permissions granted (Galway, Dublin, Limerick, Waterford, Cork)
-Half of all permissions granted are for extensions, alterations or conversions


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:38 pm 
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26/3/15: Irish Planning Permissions 2014: The Crisis Drags On

http://trueeconomics.blogspot.ie/2015/0 ... -2014.html


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:47 am 
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Planning Permissions
Quarter 1 2015


http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter12015/

Houses
Quarter 1 2014: 1,446
Quarter 1 2015: 2,514
Annual % change: +73.9%

Quarter 4 2014:2,514
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -88.5%

Apartments
Quarter 1 2014: 158
Quarter 1 2015: 641
Annual % change: +305.7%

Quarter 1 2015: 641
Peak Q4 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -93.6%

Total
Quarter 1 2014: 1,604
Quarter 1 2015: 3,155
Annual % change: +96.7%


2015 to date: 3,895 permissions granted (Q1 3,895), of which 1,065 (Q1 1,065) were for New Construction of Dwellings (27.3%)

2014: 15,724 permissions granted (Q1 3,833, Q2 4,149, Q3 4,238, Q4 3,504), of which 3,606 (Q1 891, Q2 875, Q3 962, Q4 878) were for New Construction of Dwellings (22.9%)

2013: 13,901 permissions granted (Q1 3,275 Q2 3,368, Q3 3,875 Q4 3,383), of which 3,316 (Q1 862, Q2 772, Q3 931, Q4 751) were for New Construction of Dwellings (23.9%)

2012: 14,407 permissions granted (Q1 3,368 Q2 3,672, Q3 4,047, Q4 3,320), of which 3,643 (Q1 957, Q2 942, Q3 907, Q4 837) were for New Construction of Dwellings (25.3%)


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:25 pm 
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What about number of permissions which are granted, but the work did not really started yet?

I think I saw a map with all of them in Dublin region.. anyone link perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:54 pm 
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Planning Permissions
Quarter 2 2015


http://cso.ie/en/releasesandpublication ... rter22015/

Houses
Quarter 2 2014: 1,492
Quarter 2 2015: 2,637
Annual % change: +76.7%

Quarter 2 2015: 2,637
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -87.9%

Apartments
Quarter 2 2014: 114
Quarter 2 2015: 373
Annual % change: +227.2%

Quarter 2 2015: 373
Peak Q4 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -96.3%

Total
Quarter 2 2014: 1,606
Quarter 2 2015: 3,010
Annual % change: +87.4%


2015 to date: 7,933 permissions granted (Q1 3,895, Q2 4,038), of which 2,055 (Q1 1,065, Q2 990) were for New Construction of Dwellings (25.9%)

2014: 15,724 permissions granted (Q1 3,833, Q2 4,149, Q3 4,238, Q4 3,504), of which 3,606 (Q1 891, Q2 875, Q3 962, Q4 878) were for New Construction of Dwellings (22.9%)

2013: 13,901 permissions granted (Q1 3,275 Q2 3,368, Q3 3,875 Q4 3,383), of which 3,316 (Q1 862, Q2 772, Q3 931, Q4 751) were for New Construction of Dwellings (23.9%)

2012: 14,407 permissions granted (Q1 3,368 Q2 3,672, Q3 4,047, Q4 3,320), of which 3,643 (Q1 957, Q2 942, Q3 907, Q4 837) were for New Construction of Dwellings (25.3%)


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:10 pm 
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Planning Permissions
Quarter 3 2015


http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter32015/

Houses
Quarter 3 2014: 1,783
Quarter 3 2015: 2,345
Annual % change: +31.5%

Quarter 3 2015: 2,345
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -89.3%

Apartments
Quarter 3 2014: 361
Quarter 3 2015: 317
Annual % change: -12.2%

Quarter 3 2015: 317
Peak Q4 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -96.9%

Total
Quarter 3 2014: 2,144
Quarter 3 2015: 2,662
Annual % change: +24.2%


2015 to date: 12,935 permissions granted (Q1 3,895, Q2 4,038, Q3 5,002), of which 3,182 (Q1 1,065, Q2 990, Q3 1,127) were for New Construction of Dwellings (24.6%)

2014: 15,724 permissions granted (Q1 3,833, Q2 4,149, Q3 4,238, Q4 3,504), of which 3,606 (Q1 891, Q2 875, Q3 962, Q4 878) were for New Construction of Dwellings (22.9%)

2013: 13,901 permissions granted (Q1 3,275 Q2 3,368, Q3 3,875 Q4 3,383), of which 3,316 (Q1 862, Q2 772, Q3 931, Q4 751) were for New Construction of Dwellings (23.9%)

2012: 14,407 permissions granted (Q1 3,368 Q2 3,672, Q3 4,047, Q4 3,320), of which 3,643 (Q1 957, Q2 942, Q3 907, Q4 837) were for New Construction of Dwellings (25.3%)


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:06 pm 
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padraig.od wrote:

Building a one off can be crazy expensive. We have been looking at it recently. ESB, water, waste, telephone, access road, planning, architects fees, local authority fees. I'd say there is the guts of 50k before you even pour the foundations.


Jesus, six years after the greatest crisis in the history of capitalism and we still think we can get away with forcing people to give a pound of flesh each to an army of middlemen who add little or nothing.

There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen. Yet we still think it should be illegal to construct shelter without paying crazy money to parasites who do next to nothing, or actually nothing in many cases.

Here's one prediction you can take to the bank: in 30 years that bullsh1t will be over. How did we ever convince ourselves that it was sustainable?


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:44 pm 
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Joe-Levity wrote:
There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen.

True. But how many did they build that AREN'T still standing? And would you really live in one of the ones that were? Look even at the quality of housing from fifty years ago: no central heating, no double glazing, no insulation.

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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:18 pm 
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outspann wrote:
Joe-Levity wrote:
There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen.

True. But how many did they build that AREN'T still standing? And would you really live in one of the ones that were? Look even at the quality of housing from fifty years ago: no central heating, no double glazing, no insulation.


@outspann
You've agreed with Joe-Levity with regard to the quote extract above.

Facts are facts. It's really down to how accommodation is built that is what matters.
The new regulations are yet another empire building exercise for government and vested interests.
There are good practitioners out there and I would pay them for their inspection and checking duties along with education on new techniques for builders.

The problem nowadays is that modern buildings are being built in many cases (see Part L in particular) to unnecessary standards to satisfy german industrialists and the Green House gas gangs.

It's really down to quality of what is being built and that depends on the people involved.
In Ireland NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN TO STOP BAD BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS AND DESIGNERS FROM BUILDING AGAIN!

That's the real problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:24 pm 
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outspann wrote:
Joe-Levity wrote:
There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen.

True. But how many did they build that AREN'T still standing? And would you really live in one of the ones that were? Look even at the quality of housing from fifty years ago: no central heating, no double glazing, no insulation.


Thousands. Source for that?


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:31 pm 
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Skippy 3 wrote:
outspann wrote:
Joe-Levity wrote:
There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen.

True. But how many did they build that AREN'T still standing? And would you really live in one of the ones that were? Look even at the quality of housing from fifty years ago: no central heating, no double glazing, no insulation.


Thousands. Source for that?


There are 8,691 Protected Structures on the DCC list alone. Not 500 years old, but most would be well over 100 years.

The 500 year figure I'd say is probably less than 10 that are not standing ruins.

http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/Planning/DublinCityDevelopmentPlan/Documents/Dev_Plan_-_Vol_3_-_Record_of_Protected_Structures.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:41 am 
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Skippy 3 wrote:
outspann wrote:
Joe-Levity wrote:
There are thousands of buildings still standing in this country that were built over 500 years ago by illiterate master craftsmen.

True. But how many did they build that AREN'T still standing? And would you really live in one of the ones that were? Look even at the quality of housing from fifty years ago: no central heating, no double glazing, no insulation.


Thousands. Source for that?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_ ... in_Ireland

That's just castles in Ireland (about 200 listed here are restored and probably basically habitable with regard to the nature of habitability for the times that they were built).
Then you have the Irish Round Towers (about 30 of these)
Then you have the Old Monasteries (about 10 of these)
The Skellig Island Huts and other such old church buildings and ancient forts that contained rooms within them (about 200)
I've not listed sources for the above but these are rough estimates that I'd have fair confidence to be relatively correct.

I'd say you'd definitely get over 1000 habitable buildings that were constructed over 500 years ago.

Getting over 2000 buildings to make thousandS would be potentially a struggle, perhaps.

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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:52 am 
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Planning Permissions
Quarter 4 2015


http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... rter42015/

Houses
Quarter 4 2014: 1,905
Quarter 4 2015: 2.754
Annual % change: +44.6%

Quarter 4 2015: 2,754
Peak Q2 2005: 21,938
Peak % change: -87.4%

Apartments
Quarter 4 2014: 152
Quarter 4 2015: 1,263
Annual % change: +730.9%

Quarter 4 2015: 1,262
Peak Q4 2003: 10,065
Peak % change: -87.5%

Total
Quarter 4 2014: 2,057
Quarter 4 2015: 4,017
Annual % change: +95.3%


2015: 17,427 permissions granted (Q1 3,901, Q2 4,047, Q3 5,009, Q4 4,470), of which 4,269 (Q1 1,066, Q2 991, Q3 1,128, Q4 1,084) were for New Construction of Dwellings (24.5%)

2014: 15,724 permissions granted (Q1 3,833, Q2 4,149, Q3 4,238, Q4 3,504), of which 3,606 (Q1 891, Q2 875, Q3 962, Q4 878) were for New Construction of Dwellings (22.9%)

2013: 13,901 permissions granted (Q1 3,275 Q2 3,368, Q3 3,875 Q4 3,383), of which 3,316 (Q1 862, Q2 772, Q3 931, Q4 751) were for New Construction of Dwellings (23.9%)

2012: 14,407 permissions granted (Q1 3,368 Q2 3,672, Q3 4,047, Q4 3,320), of which 3,643 (Q1 957, Q2 942, Q3 907, Q4 837) were for New Construction of Dwellings (25.3%)


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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:27 pm 
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That is a lot of apartments growth...
I wonder how many is there approved, but not build or finished in Dublin region.

Second question is: Are we building apartments far away from workplaces or high capacity public transport again?

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 Post subject: Re: Planning Permissions for dwellings since Peak
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:52 pm 
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mightyz wrote:
That is a lot of apartments growth...
I wonder how many is there approved, but not build or finished in Dublin region.

Second question is: Are we building apartments far away from workplaces or high capacity public transport again?


"high capacity public transport"? :D :D :D


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