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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:52 am 
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Does anyone know where we are with this? As far as I can see most houses for sale or rent on daft.ie and myhome.ie do not list the BER. There seems to be zero enforcement. Who do you report breaches to - your local council or a state agency?

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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:01 pm 
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NegativeEquity wrote:
Does anyone know where we are with this? As far as I can see most houses for sale or rent on daft.ie and myhome.ie do not list the BER. There seems to be zero enforcement. Who do you report breaches to - your local council or a state agency?


Ok, I read through the history of this thread:

- Daft and MyHome have informed EAs multiple times that they must insert a BER in their ads.

Both replied to me a the time with MyHome taking a more active lead. They even let you filter by BER

- Current compliance on MyHome:
19,291 for sale
12,070 with a BER + 944 claiming Exempt = 13,014
=67% have some BER inserted.

Of course, there is no way to guarantee this is the actual BER certified and not just any old one put in to get your ad up.

-SEAI say enforcement is not in their remit and you must contact local council. Most councils do not have the resources nor see this as a high enough priority to enforce, despite it being the law.

-EAs will have copped this by now and zero incentive to fill it in.

-Yes, you cannot legally purchase a house without a BER being done, but it remains caveat emptor: The BER you are told, if told at all, may not be the reality. And by the time you get to closing, only a major swing in expected BER vs actual would likely cause you to pull out of a sale


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:16 pm 
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Is it possible that the properties being advertised without BER aren't actually for sale?

Off the top of my head, BER is the only thing you have to pay for before putting an ad up.

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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:21 am 
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96% of new builds 2015-2018 A rated, 4% B rated


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:01 am 
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There has been a sharp, abrupt shift in the BER quality of new build. See graphic.

Ten years ago the majority of new builds were C rated or below. Now they are almost all A-rated.

I am not a QS, but this presumably has an impact on the cost of construction (both materials and design).

It would be great to see a rough estimate of what this does to the viability of construction.

It might go some way toward explaining why there is much less activity these days than you would expect.

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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:24 am 
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Skippy 3 wrote:
There has been a sharp, abrupt shift in the BER quality of new build. See graphic.

Ten years ago the majority of new builds were C rated or below. Now they are almost all A-rated.

I am not a QS, but this presumably has an impact on the cost of construction (both materials and design).

It would be great to see a rough estimate of what this does to the viability of construction.

It might go some way toward explaining why there is much less activity these days than you would expect.

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Does that data come from design spec BER or actual BER surveys? I can spec a BER in the design to achieve 'A' but will it in fact be 'A' rated when built?


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:34 pm 
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owenm wrote:

Does that data come from design spec BER or actual BER surveys? I can spec a BER in the design to achieve 'A' but will it in fact be 'A' rated when built?



I understand your scepticism but why do you think it would be any different? the BER assessor isn't checking the airtightness;

Simlarly Air Source pumps sound great in theory but it seems too often badly specc'd and installed leading to woeful performance


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:35 pm 
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96% of Dwellings built in 2015-2018 were given an "A" rating


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
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I'd be interested to see actually air Tightness and performance testing of said A rated new builds


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 Post subject: Re: Sellers ignoring the new BER requirement.
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