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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:13 pm 
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Luan wrote:
The shinners are true masters of social media.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not know if the US based blogger in question is not a member of any political party. However her partner Jim Cullen is the head of Friends of Sinn Fein.

Again there is no connection between an article most likely slanderous and a SF agenda to undermine a political rival. A funny conincedence all the same :)

Sunday Times have run a story suggesting the motive behind the aggressive tweets is retribution for her exposing Sein Fein's systemic cover up of abuse and rape.

Perhaps it is time for a public enquiry :)


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:18 pm 
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Another jaw dropping day at the Disclosures Tribunal relating to how the below story got published

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/cour ... 79316.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:32 pm 
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Paul Williams day at the Disclosures Tribunal.

http://disclosuretribunal.ie/en/DIS/DAY ... OSURES.pdf

Bizarre stuff, most of which raises a lot more questions.

Who was the videographer who went along with Paul Williams to record the 'formal' interview with Ms D? Noirin O'Sullivan's son. But most bizarrely, there is no indication of which allegation she was being interviewed about.


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Coles2 wrote:
Paul Williams day at the Disclosures Tribunal.

http://disclosuretribunal.ie/en/DIS/DAY ... OSURES.pdf

Bizarre stuff, most of which raises a lot more questions.

Who was the videographer who went along with Paul Williams to record the 'formal' interview with Ms D? Noirin O'Sullivan's son. But most bizarrely, there is no indication of which allegation she was being interviewed about.



I didn't have time to read the full report. Does it actually say that O'Sullivan's son was the videographer? :shock: If so that is truly shocking. One can only begin to imagine the scurrilous smirking that went on.


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Coles2 wrote:
Paul Williams day at the Disclosures Tribunal.

http://disclosuretribunal.ie/en/DIS/DAY ... OSURES.pdf

Bizarre stuff, most of which raises a lot more questions.

Who was the videographer who went along with Paul Williams to record the 'formal' interview with Ms D? Noirin O'Sullivan's son. But most bizarrely, there is no indication of which allegation she was being interviewed about.



I didn't have time to read the full report. Does it actually say that O'Sullivan's son was the videographer? :shock: If so that is truly shocking. One can only begin to imagine the scurrilous smirking that went on.

Page 70.

If you want a really, really interesting read I highly recommend that people read that entire day's transcript. Read it. It's brilliant.

It's a masterclass by Michael McDowell, and Paul Williams testimony is fascinating when you consider all the things that he is trying not to say. He comes across very poor. Denying that he ever heard of the journalist Gemma O'Doherty is particularly funny given that they worked together in the same office and she was sacked for doorstepping Callinan at the height of the penalty points scandal, and she successfully sued the Indo.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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Thank you for that....so this is the guy McGowan who is the Commissioner's son who is Paul Williams wingman - good god!
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ne ... 46708.html

I don't understand the reserve of McDowell in making the point - should it not be a headline?


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Thank you for that....so this is the guy McGowan who is the Commissioner's son who is Paul Williams wingman - good god!
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ne ... 46708.html

I don't understand the reserve of McDowell in making the point - should it not be a headline?


A good choice of word that.

We now know that a Photographer, that Williams has worked extensively with, is also a member of the Garda Reserve, & as such would have access to the PULSE system ......

I really, really hope that the inquiry now demands a full list of all queries this person made on the PULSE system, & goes thru it line-by-line to see if there was a legitimate reason for each one.

I any other country, there would be no question of someone with such a clear conflict of interest having access to private citizens records; regardless of whos offspring they were !

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The videographer bit is funny, but it's even better in the context of the rest of the testimony.

Another funny bit is where Paul Williams is trying to downplay his involvement in organising for Ms D to pass her allegation to the political establishment. He says he 'helped her out' by phoning Michaél Martin's office. Nothing more than that. Just spoke to somebody in the office. Oh, and he collected her from the train, drove her to the office, waited for her to come out of the meeting, and then drove her back to the train station, but did not discuss the meeting with her. No way. And same with the Alan Shatter meeting. Organised the meeting, collected her from the train, waited around, drove her back to the station, but didn't discuss the meeting with her.

Paul Williams puts the 'hack' in hackney.


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The Sunday Indo has a column on this today but no mention of McGowan!!!

Williams versus McDowell: the battle of the big beasts at the Disclosures Tribunal
A leading journalist came out fighting, wanting to set the record straight at the Disclosures Tribunal, writes Shane Phelan
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/co ... 58054.html
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...Williams, the pre-eminent crime journalist of his time, came out of the other corner fighting too....
....While he sometimes appeared to be on the back foot, no knockout blow was landed.....
....Williams gave as good as he got, with no side drawing blood, after he faced five senior counsel over several hours.

No comments allowed on this piece!


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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The Sunday Indo has a column on this today but no mention of McGowan!!!

Williams versus McDowell: the battle of the big beasts at the Disclosures Tribunal
A leading journalist came out fighting, wanting to set the record straight at the Disclosures Tribunal, writes Shane Phelan
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/co ... 58054.html
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...Williams, the pre-eminent crime journalist of his time, came out of the other corner fighting too....
....While he sometimes appeared to be on the back foot, no knockout blow was landed.....
....Williams gave as good as he got, with no side drawing blood, after he faced five senior counsel over several hours.

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It reads more like a Waterford whispers article. But at least WW has some credibility

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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FreeFallin wrote:
The Sunday Indo has a column on this today but no mention of McGowan!!!

Williams versus McDowell: the battle of the big beasts at the Disclosures Tribunal
A leading journalist came out fighting, wanting to set the record straight at the Disclosures Tribunal, writes Shane Phelan
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/co ... 58054.html
Quote:
...Williams, the pre-eminent crime journalist of his time, came out of the other corner fighting too....
....While he sometimes appeared to be on the back foot, no knockout blow was landed.....
....Williams gave as good as he got, with no side drawing blood, after he faced five senior counsel over several hours.

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The days transcript is completely at odds with Shane Phelan's assessment. Williams gets his ass handed to him repeatedly.

I just still think that a huge sneaky game is still being perpetrated on McCabe. The indo piece states that "the dpp found no basis for a prosecution" It suggests that more "finding" might be in order. The actual letter from the DPP is on page 39 of the transcript. It categorically states that having examined Ms D and family's statements there was no crime.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:02 am 
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Only heard about this on the radio today. Looks like the good Commish who assured us she always had the best interests of the Gardai in mind tried to jump ship.


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Garda Commissioner Nóirín O Sullivan has been linked to a senior position in Europol.

The EUs law enforcement agency is recruiting in the area of senior operations with the post becoming available in November.

The Sunday Business Post reports that a garda spokesperson would not comment on speculation around the possible job offer for the Commissioner.

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http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingne ... 00049.html


She didn't get the job :(

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Garda Commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan has informed the Government that she will not be standing aside to take up a major role with the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol.

The Irish Times understands Ms O’Sullivan was in the running for a senior position in the area of specialist operations but was unsuccessful in her candidacy due to her lack of experience at a senior management level.

The role sought candidates with up to 15 years of such experience but Ms O’Sullivan has only been commissioner since 2014.

...


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3186802


That explained her request for extended leave.

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I would have thought she was already damaged beyond repair, but surely now she has to be replaced.
How can you champion yourself as a reformist when you tried to abandon ship?

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:42 am 
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I wonder how much this breath test scandal has cost the tax payer, after all why else do it?

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Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
I wonder how much this breath test scandal has cost the tax payer, after all why else do it?


It most probably cost some people their lives.


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