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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:00 pm 
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croquette wrote:
It’s as though the Irish media places higher value on the lives of parents than citizens without children

I think you're overthinking it. The media are filling out the story with whatever information they can put their hands on. It adds colour and gains eyeballs.

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:25 pm 
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Eschatologist wrote:
croquette wrote:
It’s as though the Irish media places higher value on the lives of parents than citizens without children

I think you're overthinking it. The media are filling out the story with whatever information they can put their hands on. It adds colour and gains eyeballs.


But why does the Irish media rely so much on that fact (being a father/mother of x number of children) to add colour? There are plenty of facts about people that add colour. Is it more tragic when a parent dies than when a person without children dies? Is it not obvious that when a person dies there will de devastated people? I especially don’t understand it here when it’s about road traffic deaths.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:26 pm 
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nonsense. We don't know what their home life was like. I suspect they're immensely better without an abductor there.

I don't, but I doubt they knew he was an abductor or whatever else he was. This is going to be massively traumatic on that family. It's also of interest to people how seemingly normal the perpetrator is at a superficial level, similar to Dwyer.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:32 pm 
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Their trauma is not a matter for public concern, surely? (Unlike the need to know that there is an abductor on the loose/dead and a woman missing).


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:08 pm 
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Their trauma is not a matter for public concern, surely? (Unlike the need to know that there is an abductor on the loose/dead and a woman missing).

The alleged abductor is dead. Once the victim is located do you expect all coverage will end?


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:18 pm 
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Their trauma is not a matter for public concern, surely? (Unlike the need to know that there is an abductor on the loose/dead and a woman missing).

The media are not an outlet for public service announcements, they're (with the possible exception of RTE) for-profit enterprises competing for attention.

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:23 pm 
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Eschatologist wrote:
croquette wrote:
Their trauma is not a matter for public concern, surely? (Unlike the need to know that there is an abductor on the loose/dead and a woman missing).

The media are not an outlet for public service announcements, they're (with the possible exception of RTE) for-profit enterprises competing for attention.


Indeed. I suppose it speaks to the level of intelligence of the consumers of such information.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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croquette wrote:
Eschatologist wrote:
croquette wrote:
Their trauma is not a matter for public concern, surely? (Unlike the need to know that there is an abductor on the loose/dead and a woman missing).

The media are not an outlet for public service announcements, they're (with the possible exception of RTE) for-profit enterprises competing for attention.


Indeed. I suppose it speaks to the level of intelligence of the consumers of such information.


The average person is interested in any information about the people central in newsworthy events, where they live, what they do, previous criminal histories etc. Marital status is just one of these and victims or perpetrators having children will have an obvious effect on these. Its just a natural human angle. Its also a small country here and there are only a few degrees of separation between most people.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:51 pm 
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Down under:

Quote:
Victoria cops faked more than 258,000 roadside breath tests

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/v ... ts/9817846


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
Down under:

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Victoria cops faked more than 258,000 roadside breath tests

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/v ... ts/9817846

Should be an interesting contrast.


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