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 Post subject: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:27 pm 
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Urban Low Income households have availed of a waiver ( in the order of €150-200 a year) for many years as their Local Authorities controversially got out of Bin collections some 10 years back and privatised it.

The reason the waiver is going is that rural people pay in full for their bin charges and abolishing the waivers levels up the charges nationally.

At the end of June everyone ( Urban and Rural) is to move to a Pay By Weight charging system and the Bin collection is to split out to a standing charge and collection charge regime nationally, it is a flat rate system in rural areas at present, in the main.

Pay by weight is not as bad as it sounds if you live in a rural area and have space for composting. It will be quite a different situation in urban areas where composting attracts even MORE rats and is easier said than done. Furthermore many apartment blocks do not have space for proper separation either.

But for many poor people this is a stealth tax and the government has not 'finalised policy' to ensure that the matter remains uncontroversial until after the election is over...the same way Gormley set up 'proto' Irish Water in 2010 and said nothing what with an election coming up. We all know what happened next. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:29 pm 
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Pay by Weight discussed here

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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I have no problem with pay by weight but it takes sustained education to make it work. This has not been undertaken at all. :(

I already compost and have a small wheelie bin set.

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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Pay by weight is already in place in large parts of Dublin (DLR).

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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Mantissa wrote:
Pay by weight is already in place in large parts of Dublin (DLR).


and outside - we've had it in Leitrim for last year and a half.

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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Leitrim has mandatory subscription/registration too, that will be a bit of a shock in Galway where a lot of low income households are on prepaid bags.

Individual councils have been up to 15 years trying to get rid of the waiver system and only central abolition will finally kill it off, but education and free composting bins should be tried early on not at the last bloody minute. I'll have to dump something foul into county buildings for the publicity one of the days. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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2Pack wrote:
Leitrim has mandatory subscription/registration too, that will be a bit of a shock in Galway where a lot of low income households are on prepaid bags.


Yeah mandatory registration with a monthly standing charge of €6.66 regardless of if you ever leave out a bin.

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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2Pack wrote:
Leitrim has mandatory subscription/registration too, that will be a bit of a shock in Galway where a lot of low income households are on prepaid bags.


Yeah mandatory registration with a monthly standing charge of €6.66 regardless of if you ever leave out a bin.


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NegativeEquity wrote:
Yeah mandatory registration with a monthly standing charge of €6.66 regardless of if you ever leave out a bin.


You get issued with all the right bins for that, surely. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Bin Charge Waiver System abolished end June
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I wrote to Cork City Council last week asking for information on their compost bins now that I must pay by weight for bins. They don't sell them any more; neither do Cork County Council.

Get one in a garden centre is what I was told...


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