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What kind of property do you want to raise kids in?
Apartment 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Semi-D 25%  25%  [ 17 ]
Detached 52%  52%  [ 35 ]
One off rural 18%  18%  [ 12 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:51 am 
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Too many people see the apparent "perfection" on the internet, so look for that and reject all flawed specimens and then find there's no one left!

I have friends/extended family members in that situation, mainly female. Attractive, decent jobs but in their 30's now and no sign of a long-term partner because the constant search for perfection means they'll not settle for an 'average' guy. Sometimes you just got to suck it up and settle down with someone who's not going to murder you in your sleep or empty your bank account when your not looking!


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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
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FreeFallin wrote:
dolanbaker wrote:
Too many people see the apparent "perfection" on the internet, so look for that and reject all flawed specimens and then find there's no one left!

I have friends/extended family members in that situation, mainly female. Attractive, decent jobs but in their 30's now and no sign of a long-term partner because the constant search for perfection means they'll not settle for an 'average' guy. Sometimes you just got to suck it up and settle down with someone who's not going to murder you in your sleep or empty your bank account when your not looking!

Some girls just want road frontage!

Edit to add years ago when I lived in Kilkenny I was out with farmer friends and a girl cracked onto one of them and all I could hear her asking him was how many cows, dairy or cattle, acreage, yield etc... They were both pretty serious about farming, married with kid within three years of meetings. Langtons nightclub was often called The Mart! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:13 pm 
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FreeFallin wrote:
dolanbaker wrote:
Too many people see the apparent "perfection" on the internet, so look for that and reject all flawed specimens and then find there's no one left!

I have friends/extended family members in that situation, mainly female. Attractive, decent jobs but in their 30's now and no sign of a long-term partner because the constant search for perfection means they'll not settle for an 'average' guy. Sometimes you just got to suck it up and settle down with someone who's not going to murder you in your sleep or empty your bank account when your not looking!


That's what the 'manosphere' and evolutionary psychology calls hypergamy - women want a partner who has more status than them. They have half an eye on trading up, until they finally decide.


And the Huffington Post/Sandberg propaganda is that career success will a woman bring happiness. But in order to rise up the corporate ladder you can't be too "nice". She gets her middle management job, beats a few men.....But the higher status men she might date typically want an attractive, younger partner, niceness being a bonus.

The ratio of women to men going to university continues to increase, the number of young men dropping out watching porn and playing computer games increases (they fail at the status seeking, or know they'll fail and don't even bother). And you have more and more young women seeking high status males like athletes and whoring for attention on social media....attention being given by the failures of men who have no status.

There....I just saved you ever having to read anything in the 'manosphere' :P


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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:30 pm 
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The Economist says that Prime Minister Abe's plans to deal with Japan's demographic crisis are not enough in a society where deaths exceed births by around 400,000 each year and where half of babies born today can expect to live to 100 years of age. Apart from the obvious solution - importing migrant.. ahh.. guest workers - he is also making it more attractive for women to return to work after child birth.

We won't face Japan's problems here - we have a strong inflow of migrants, working or otherwise, and we have the HSE to limit life expectancy :evil:
https://www.economist.com/node/217539
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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
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You have to remember that the Japanese do 90 better than we do 90.
They eat less processed food and saturated fat. They tend to sleep at floor level. And having to get up off the floor every morning is great functional exercise.

For anyone elderly or just old and overweight a good test is how many times they can get down to lying position and up to standing without holding on to furniture etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:34 am 
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GameBlame wrote:
You have to remember that the Japanese do 90 better than we do 90.
They eat less processed food and saturated fat. They tend to sleep at floor level. And having to get up off the floor every morning is great functional exercise.

For anyone elderly or just old and overweight a good test is how many times they can get down to lying position and up to standing without holding on to furniture etc.

Doctors should prescribe yoga and turkish get-ups.

I once took an overnight train across China. Seeing the elderly climb into the top bunk was surprising. I put the strength and agility down to the fact they use squat toilets.


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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:46 am 
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Braighni wrote:
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You have to remember that the Japanese do 90 better than we do 90.
They eat less processed food and saturated fat. They tend to sleep at floor level. And having to get up off the floor every morning is great functional exercise.

For anyone elderly or just old and overweight a good test is how many times they can get down to lying position and up to standing without holding on to furniture etc.

Doctors should prescribe yoga and turkish get-ups.

I once took an overnight train across China. Seeing the elderly climb into the top bunk was surprising. I put the strength and agility down to the fact they use squat toilets.

And probably the fact that in early life they were far more physically active than their modern counterparts.

It's already an established trend that life expectancy is declining in some western economies, although the causes are multiple but I've no doubt that a sedentary lifestyle is a major contributing factor.

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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 pm 
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Life expectancy at birth in Ireland is now 81.8 years although as recently as 1990 it was only 74.8 years, a full seven years less.

I believe the improvement is primarily due to better housing (central heating, double-glazing, better hygiene with modern toilets & kitchens, hot water on tap, washing machines), more generous pensions (thanks Bertie :? ) and lifestyle improvements (less smoking, more exercise) but some element of this improvement is surely attributable to the healthcare industry.

I heard the Taoiseach on Marian recently credit the HSE with this improvement in life expectancy. Did she challenge his medical expertise on this vital issue ? :x Can anyone tell us what share of HSE expenditure goes on the elderly? I suspect it is close to 80% and that's why no-one will say. Most people live with serious health problems for the last few years of their lives. The risk is that we will increase life expectancy without increasing the length of our healthy, active lives.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistic ... statistics


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Lefournier3 wrote:
Life expectancy at birth in Ireland is now 81.8 years although as recently as 1990 it was only 74.8 years, a full seven years less.

I believe the improvement is primarily due to better housing (central heating, double-glazing, better hygiene with modern toilets & kitchens, hot water on tap, washing machines), more generous pensions (thanks Bertie :? ) and lifestyle improvements (less smoking, more exercise) but some element of this improvement is surely attributable to the healthcare industry.

I heard the Taoiseach on Marian recently credit the HSE with this improvement in life expectancy. Did she challenge his medical expertise on this vital issue ? :x Can anyone tell us what share of HSE expenditure goes on the elderly? I suspect it is close to 80% and that's why no-one will say. Most people live with serious health problems for the last few years of their lives. The risk is that we will increase life expectancy without increasing the length of our healthy, active lives.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistic ... statistics

Also in Ireland up to 1990 there were still many suffering the ravages of the pre vaccination age. I think in the 1950s in the USA Polio was considered the biggest public fear after nuclear war.

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 Post subject: Re: Going Japanese AKA The Disapearance Of The Western World
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:38 am 
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Breda O'Brien, the IT's token Catholic, catches up with Japan, via The Atlantic Monthly. And exposes the "no platform" brigade who favour porn stars and brothel owners.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/bred ... -1.3708257

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... te/534291/


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