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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:36 pm 
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The only semi shovel ready projects that would really boost spend are Metro North and Dart Underground.

Politicians and civil servants are scared sh1tless of them because of the risk of cost overrun, delays and/or ability to leave no room for other ribbon cutting opportunities.

All this despite it being hard to find ANY public infrastructure in Dublin that looks like bad value after the fact. And instead we get more buses.


Scared of doing their job.. absolutely fabulous, just great! Nothing to see here. All is good. Come back in 2050 when Ireland is the first former country declared as an entire world heritage site, since the population left a perfectly intact *19th century city.

*Most of the modern infrastructure and edifice has since perished having fall to a rare bacterium that feasts on pyrite and shredded paper leaving only colonial period structures in place.... homebond!

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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:47 pm 
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We cant even get a children's hospital built despite the clear need, goodwill from just about everyone and funding

Why Ireland is doing everything to become an example of how to waste taxes?

Everything real done by state is going worse here, except leprechaun GDP figures.

Especially Health service is a total failure, which I've experienced myself. Thousands of managers, no one ready to make decision, no one there to cure you. Waiting times for simple procedures goes into years.. Even something as easy as getting an appointment date is taking months in public service. Are we living in Africa or one of the richest countries on the world (according to well faked GDP numbers anyway)? It is just ridiculous with this propaganda from Enda and others.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:55 am 
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Taoiseach wants alternative option for Metro North

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0501/95958 ... -varadkar/

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called for an alternative option to be found for the Metro North project to avoid it running under the grounds of a GAA club on the north side of the city.

It has been proposed that the service would run directly under Na Fianna's grounds in Glasnevin, which is in the constituency of Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.

The club will be required to relocate for at least six years if the proposed route gets the goes ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:33 pm 
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TheJackal wrote:
Taoiseach wants alternative option for Metro North

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0501/95958 ... -varadkar/

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called for an alternative option to be found for the Metro North project to avoid it running under the grounds of a GAA club on the north side of the city.

It has been proposed that the service would run directly under Na Fianna's grounds in Glasnevin, which is in the constituency of Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.

The club will be required to relocate for at least six years if the proposed route gets the goes ahead.


I can't imagine it taking more then 12 months to build a cut and cover tunnel on there. They would'nt even have to demolish buildings.

Why is Leo asking them to move the line while not speaking to the engineers themselves on mitigation?

Why don't the planners defend themselves from this interference?


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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:52 pm 
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I've been to watch our local team play Na Fianna in a ground out by the Airport which has about 8-10 pitches which they own/lease. We've played them in Johnstown Park. There are pitches in Albert College Park up the road from their club house. There are pitches in Poppintree park. Setanta have pitches up from Albert College Park. I've seen them play in St. Kevins too. I'm pretty sure a few bob from Metro North to Na Fianna would help them finance the rent of pitches from Setanta, Kickhams and Erins Isle for a little while.

It's probably my old age but I can't help but think this is a bit of a shakedown for a few bob from the Metro project above what they'd normally get. I could be wrong but of all the clubs on the Northside I think Na Fianna are one of the strongest organisationally and materially. I can't see the loss of their clubhouse pitches destroying their club.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 12:45 am 
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Bubblecovery wrote:
TheJackal wrote:
Taoiseach wants alternative option for Metro North

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0501/95958 ... -varadkar/

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called for an alternative option to be found for the Metro North project to avoid it running under the grounds of a GAA club on the north side of the city.

It has been proposed that the service would run directly under Na Fianna's grounds in Glasnevin, which is in the constituency of Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.

The club will be required to relocate for at least six years if the proposed route gets the goes ahead.


I can't imagine it taking more then 12 months to build a cut and cover tunnel on there. They would'nt even have to demolish buildings.

Why is Leo asking them to move the line while not speaking to the engineers themselves on mitigation?

Why don't the planners defend themselves from this interference?


The engineers will get paid a massive variation to change the scope of works, they'll be happy to stay tight lipped.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:21 am 
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TheJackal wrote:
Taoiseach wants alternative option for Metro North

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0501/95958 ... -varadkar/

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called for an alternative option to be found for the Metro North project to avoid it running under the grounds of a GAA club on the north side of the city.

It has been proposed that the service would run directly under Na Fianna's grounds in Glasnevin, which is in the constituency of Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.

The club will be required to relocate for at least six years if the proposed route gets the goes ahead.

I'd be questioning why we should put a public transport route through such a low density area at all - we should be routing it through areas of high density housing. If they are not high density than they should be made so - perhaps the best solution is to relocate Na Fiannas fields to a more suitable location and put up apartment blocks on the current grounds. The Metro link should be a four track system with a Rapid Link minimal stop service to the Airport in the central tracks and commuter service on the outer ones - otherwise we will end up with the same mess that we have with the Dart and Arrow services mixed in with the InterCity services. Or the mess that we made of the M50 - having to widen it later. This country does not do planned infrastructure - it does piecemeal disconnected projects which leave the country in the mess that it is currently in. It's fair enough to have a vision of a Dublin with 1.4m people in it but if you don't plan the infrastructure to realise that vision you will end up with the situation that we currently have. The pressure points at the moment are housing and transport - but there is nothing there for Schools, Hospitals (we need at least one more) and Retirement accomodation - no one will even consider them until there is a first class crisis. The Government was warned about housing in 2010 and they have still done nothing about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:02 pm 
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conork wrote:
The engineers will get paid a massive variation to change the scope of works, they'll be happy to stay tight lipped.

Not really engineers, but the senior management and owners in ARUP or whatever is the name of the company which designs most of it ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Why is the State not performing massive Capital investme
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:29 pm 
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This is a country that thinks its good to spend 800 million a year on ODA while running a budget deficit for nearly a decade.

You don't need infrastruture when you are driven around in the bus lanes by your driver.


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